CoH2 already

Well of course they're not advertising the product if they're still in the phase of assembling the team who will build the thing. They've got so little to show for it that building up hype now will just mean it will be more likely to have died out by the time they can actually sell something.

Regardless, there's no denying that the CoX engine is a mess of kludges and workarounds. When we can see things like Null the Gull and Ouroboros from the outside, the tangled code must have reached Gordian levels behind the scenes, to the point where the only real solution is fairly Alexandrian in nature. On top of that there's the processor chugging. I have to run the graphics at minimum level and still occasionally get single digit framerates, and yet my computer can run Guild Wars and Mount and Blade no problem. The lack of any built-in system for proactive villainy has been grating on nerves quite a bit of late, and building one into the existing game is just not feasible. And so on, and so forth.

CoX 2 would have to be a different game, taking place in a different city, a different time period, an alternate continuity, or whatever. It couldn't just be CoX 1 but with updated graphics. It would have to be something which could be, and which would quite possibly be better off as being, advertised as an entirely different game. A spiritual successor.

I wouldn't recommend making the game a globe-hopping deal. The super hero genre is primarily about heroes who guard just one city and make very occasional forays outside of it. Yes, Spider-Man, Batman, and Superman have all visited foreign locations on occasion, but they pretty much stick to New York, Gotham and Metropolis. It's one thing for CoX veterans to come into the new game and go globe-hopping with old characters, but new players need to be able to get a full super hero experience with just CoX 2, which means at least half the content, especially at launch, should focus on a single central city.

CoH2..I'll only ever accept CoH2 if we can port over our AT's and everything with them from Inf to badges (VG's/SG's and it's bases would be good 2 but thts here or there)

If we can't port our toons i don't want a CoH2.

The newest MMO being developed by NCSoft is WildStar.

http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/




Now is it possible there are two MMO's being worked on? Sure, anythings possible.

Yeah, CoH2 would have to be in development for about...four to five years? Maybe six? To have even the ghost of a chance as being as good and full content wise as CoH is.

Releasing with the current 'baseline' that MMOs (and some other games for that matter) seem to think is acceptable would be nothing short of suicide.

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IMHO City of is lacking in one category and that is character models. We have improved water effects, shadows, destructive objects in missions, weapon customization, costumes that look great compared to the paint on of yesteryear and some with effects, backpacks etc etc. The sore thumb is the characters, they are plastic looking and their stance is not realistic compared to some MMOs out there. We should not have to use a emote to have a normal stance. Plus one thing irritates myself and I am sure a good portion of the population, the mitten hands. In one coffee talk one dev spoke of shooting energy out of your finger only to have Zwillinger tell him we don't have fingers. Imagine how cool to shoot powers out your finger? Faces need love and not what we have now(blinking eyes or mouth moving). Overall just a revamp and we would never need an City of 2.

CoH already has examples of 'better' graphics. If everything was the same quality as the new content, i.e. Praetoria, bio and organic faces and the clockwork ones, etc, then everything would be good.

I mean, just go and look at Mirror Spirit. THAT is the sort of quality the game can already produce. It just needs to be spread more.

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The graphics are nice in Praetoria, but they also make people crash a lot. Especially in Imperial City.

also, for a case-in-point example....

Everquest and Everquest II

last I heard, and this was quite a while ago, but Everquest II was still less popular than the original

Given how sequel MMO's usually do, it'd be kind of dumb to directly compete with yourself. You're going to spend enormous resources creating an entire new game, and then going "hey, this is the improved version of your OLDER game. Come play this instead." only for people to go "yeah, you know what, I really miss all my old stuff. Later."

Then game 2 fails.

I'm kind of wondering why people seem to be in a hurry to kill off CoH.

Yes, the game engine is old and something of a patchwork mess.

But, it still works.

Yes, Some of the content is showing it's age.

But, we still get new content.

Yes, There are newer and flashier ways to do things.

But, do we really need to?


I agree that will happen eventually. And when that time comes, I'll judge it based upon it's merits and make my decision then. Until we know for a fact that it's coming around, I'll just enjoy what we have.