Regen! A discussion.

I read somewhere that i22 is going to add 15 seconds of untouchability to Revive! At least that is something to address one of the most lacking powers in the set.

I think Fast Healing should just add the same mechanic as RttC, and boost overall regen based on how many foes are nearby. That mechanic is already in the game, so it wouldn't take a major change. I'd be willing to be that if the set was developed now, it would work that way. It's only not included now because the set was developed before that mechanic was added to the game (afaik).

Sign me on with whatever group is advocating for recharge debuff resistance. With the click-intensive nature of the set, I am surprised it has not already been implemented by the developers.

Since the changes to regen, I have tried it once. I personally didn't like it that much. Maybe if I give it another shot.

As far as Regen playing like WP, to me, it's more like WP plays like old school regen.

And of course, I agree with adding some form of recharge resistance to regen.

Yeah to echo Supermax, that was the single most idiotic nerf in the history of the game. I was truly outraged about that. How could the devs be that incompetent at their jobs? Well history reveals our vindication: they really were incompetent and those people are all gone now. Completely by coincidence, though, the set did need nerfing from where it was at the time. They radically overdid it but Castle's buffs got it most of the way toward balance.

As it stands today, brute regeneration seems pretty perfectly balanced. A versatile set with a wide range of performance depending on build cost and player skill. I find its vulnerability to recharge debuffs less annoying than its complete nudity to endurance drain and popular incarnate status effects. Even considering all of those, though, you can do a lot worse.

You know, I haven't touched the set in a while.
Maybe I should give it a run. I know there was a post in the brute section about a Ss/Reg, using just SO's or generic IO's.

Maybe I'll give that a try, give some feedback.

If Regen is as horrible as some want to portray it to be (and it isn't imho, even without sofcapped defenses), then surviving with it is a huge reward in itself

How about giving a portion of Instant Healing 'pulse-healing' rather than regen so you get a mix of the two? That way, it would be unaffected by -regen attacks which get pretty common late-game.

Also, agreeing on Revive needing some sort of buff. Even a simple Untouchable for 10 seconds buff would work, and if you use it when you're not defeated, you get the equivalent of eating a medium green and blue at the same time, thus the 'revive' name still fits, even if you're using the second meaning "[verb] give new life or energy to" instead of "[verb] cause to regain consciousness".