30x33 rare rolls for sale


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What's so special about level 33?


 

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Originally Posted by MoltenSlowa View Post
What's so special about level 33?
For some, it's the ability to still have the IO set bonuses at a lower level.

However, when you getting random rolls from the hero merit vendor, you're getting what is vaguely called Pool C drops. (I say vague, because I've never seen any documentation as to why a specific recipe qualifies for one category or another) In this category are usually a lot of procs. Chance of this, chance of that, global recharge, recovery/regen, etc.

Because these procs work the same at level 20 as they would at 50 (if the set ranges that low) the lower the level, the higher the value.

33 is pretty much percieved to be more valuable than the same IOs higher than 33 because of the exemplar utility.

It's also viewed as better than the ones lower in level because some of the procs also boost another quality.

Like the LotG 7.5% global recharge - it also boosts defense. The lower the IO, the lower the defense boost.

There may be some more reasons that I haven't thought about, but I think that covers the bulk of it.


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@Ukase

 

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Oh, I'll place a bid for 750 million.


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First set SOLD to Ukaserex.

Couple other things:

* 33 is the highest you can go and get your bonuses when exemped to 30, which people used to care about for Siren's Call PVP. [32 is the highest you can go and still get your bonuses when exemped to 29 by Ouro.]

* 33 is also a level that you used to get from Quick Katies, so it became the de facto "medium level". People sold stuff at 33 because people bought stuff at 33 because etc. This isn't really true anymore either.

* So anyway, I have three or so characters level locked at 33 and one of 'em hasn't even done a full set of 10 tips yet, never mind Who Will Die. I have H/V Merit generating capacity. The 30x30 was pretty darn popular but I'm temporarily out of those merits.


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Originally Posted by Ukaserex View Post
For some, it's the ability to still have the IO set bonuses at a lower level.

However, when you getting random rolls from the hero merit vendor, you're getting what is vaguely called Pool C drops. (I say vague, because I've never seen any documentation as to why a specific recipe qualifies for one category or another) In this category are usually a lot of procs. Chance of this, chance of that, global recharge, recovery/regen, etc.

Because these procs work the same at level 20 as they would at 50 (if the set ranges that low) the lower the level, the higher the value.
One clarification, related to the LotG: 7.5% is that it does not follow the same rules as the "chance of" procs. It functions as a set bonus, so if you go more than 3 levels below the level of the IO, you no longer get the 7.5% global recharge bonus. So a level 33 LotG: 7.5% would only keep working down to level 30, whereas a level 25 would work down to 22 for exemplar purposes. As you correctly noted, though, something like the Mako's Bite proc does exactly the same thing in its level 50 incarnation as in its level 30 incarnation, but the level 30 version can be slotted 20 levels earlier (and is in much lower supply, for a variety of reasons).

The "Pool A/B/C" distinction comes from how the sets were originally implemented, and there is not a perfect equation to understand why a given IO is Pool A (random mob drops) vs. Pool B (end of mission drops) vs. Pool C (TF/trial drops). Most of the procs are in Pool C (the combined TF/trial pool), but some (e.g., the Performance Shifter: Chance for +Endurance) are Pool A. Similarly, most of the rare triple-enhancers are Pool C (with several having been in Pool D, back in the day when the trial and TF pools were separate), but the Mako's Bite and Devastation quads have always been Pool A.

p.s. Sorry for the threadjack, Fulmens!


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Just to let folks know,

The first three sets of 5 recipes were well above the break even average I had in my head.

The fourth set was a little weak and the 5th set was fair.

In retrospect, I probably overpaid - but not really. Now, instead of standing in rwz recruiting for an iTrial, waiting for people to log in, I can actually have something productive to do - like farm for the salvage bits that I didn't have stashed in my base.

I won't know for some time if I actually profit or not, because by nature, the 33's make more, but they sell slower.


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@Ukase

 

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I'll put in a bid for 600 million for the second set if you decied to roll and sell them.


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Is there any chance you would consider doing these at 32 ?


 

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I was the recipient of a 30x30 a week or so ago. I have since sold a LotG special crafted for $150 mil and a BotZ special crafted for $135 mil. I have one more LotG that I posted, and various others pieces

The first 10 that I received, in general, were quite sad, but I had some nice recipes after that. I'm sure to break even at the very least, and am anxious to see how much ahead I will end up.


 

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Ok, I sent you the monies.
Now to figure out which toon I'm going to use to market them. About time I made a dedicated marketing toon instead of just playing around with a bunch of them..


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I'll take some of that action. I would prefer level 30's. Just let me know and I will get in game and send the cash to @boltcutter. (if that is correct)


 

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Just want to say thanks to Fulmens. Got my rolls quick and painlessly.


 

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That'll work. I'll send the money shortly.


 

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Devil: Got those 30's almost all set up. Send the inf, they'll arrive over the next couple days. Is 10 at a time good for you, as far as room in your global email?
Sorry to off-topic this, but... what is the limit on global mail?


 

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I have a question about this...

Do you have to have a level locked toon to do this? I have used my a-merits pretty much exclusively for buying specific recipes. Does the level slider not work when making a reward roll? For specifics you can choose what level you want, if you can do the same with random rolls then you would not need a locked toon. Does the slider not work for reward rolls?


 

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@Fulmens ( or really anyone who knows )

Your doing 6 hero merits every 2 or 3 days ? 1 per week for SSA, 1 for 10 tip missions. This is per toon.

So I am assuming your doing multiple toons to do this.

Sorry if I am asking to give away a secret not my intention. I think by now from my posting on these forums you can see I am just not as sharp as you guys/gals in this area of the game. I would rather ask and get shot down then not ask.

I just know that if its one of you guys doing something I like this, I am missing out on something I should know. As I mentioned in another thread I just learned about the merit reward in SSA missions several weeks ago.


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You do need level-locked characters [or you need to roll at level 30/etc as your characters go by] to get random rolls at that level.

I happen to have a bunch of level -locked characters because I started Midlevel Crisis, an organization devoted to level-locking characters for the exact purpose of generating random rolls at medium levels. . . I also locked a character at level 30 for about a week and a half recently.

I had a bunch of characters who hadn't done ANY "Who Will Die" so I could get 3 or 4 alignment merits on them in, like, one day. Also, most of my characters had at least something- five tips or twenty or thirty reward merits- that I could easily turn into an alignment merit.

If you like doing Sister Psyche, that's 50 reward merits by itself. If you're doing level-locked L35s you can ALWAYS find people doing ITFs.

I recently went to an 800-million-inf minimum on this because I _don't_ have any more untapped resevoirs of hero merits. Well, maybe one or two coming up, but not like the 30 or so undiscovered HMs I had sitting around.


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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post

I had a bunch of characters who hadn't done ANY "Who Will Die" so I could get 3 or 4 alignment merits on them in, like, one day.
Sorry to nitpick. Are you saying ONE character can get 3 to 4 merits on Who Will Die ? Reason I ask is when I first did them I got 2, one from the first time doing it and then another for repeating the story. So you know I was doing the very first one.

I have not done any of the other Who Will Die story parts. Are you saying you will get 1 extra merit for each part of Who Will Die story you have NOT done before ?

The reason I ask is I have 20 level 50s and if on average I can get 5 merits out of the SSA per toon, that is a lot of merits. At least 100.

I guess I should just log in and test this out myself but figured I would ask in case someone else is in the same boat and reads this.


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2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives

 

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Sorry to nitpick. Are you saying ONE character can get 3 to 4 merits on Who Will Die ? Reason I ask is when I first did them I got 2, one from the first time doing it and then another for repeating the story. So you know I was doing the very first one.

I have not done any of the other Who Will Die story parts. Are you saying you will get 1 extra merit for each part of Who Will Die story you have NOT done before ?

The reason I ask is I have 20 level 50s and if on average I can get 5 merits out of the SSA per toon, that is a lot of merits. At least 100.

I guess I should just log in and test this out myself but figured I would ask in case someone else is in the same boat and reads this.
You can get 1 merit on a 1-week lockout no matter what you've done, and 1 per episode the first time you do each.

So with 5 episodes out and a character who CAN do them all but has never done any of them, you can get 6 merits in a sitting.