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Posted on: 2012-01-24 10:24 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by SilverPharaoh
actually they aren't Liefeld designs...those are Silvestri designs
Liefeld did Youngblood |
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Whether this is Leifeld's own work or not, it's a Leifeldian design. *edit*
Nevertheless, for your reference, Youngblood:  |
Not.
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Cruddy? Cyber Force only got better as it went along. It went from an okay wannabe X-Men book to a great book all of it's own.
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Originally Posted by Scythus
How many of those cruddy team books did Image let Liefeld churn out?
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And I wouldn't call Marc Silvestri's style anything like Liefields. 
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No, not his usual fare, but Cyber Force is very clearly using every Liefeldian motif; snarling faces, big guns, TITS!, robo arms, huge guns, TITS!, obscured feet (although some actually appear) and pouches.|
Originally Posted by BrandX
And I wouldn't call Marc Silvestri's style anything like Liefields.
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All it's missing is someone with a glowy eye.
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Big guns are nothing compared to Liefields HUGE OMG WTF CHASE THE HELLCAT WOULD LOVE THAT! |
Originally Posted by Scythus
No, not his usual fare, but Cyber Force is very clearly using every Liefeldian motif; snarling faces, big guns, TITS!, robo arms, huge guns, TITS!, obscured feet (although some actually appear) and pouches.
All it's missing is someone with a glowy eye. |
But eh, I see the difference in styles myself.
And I loved the Cyber Force comic. I bought it when it returned, and sad I dont see it still around. 
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All the Image Comic team books from that era shared a style
that people would consider "Liefieldesque".
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It's just an alternate spelling of "grotesque".
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
All the Image Comic team books from that era shared a style
that people would consider "Liefieldesque". |
Dr. Todt's theme.
i make stuff...
It was called "The 90's". Pretty much every company in town ran that style in some form or another.
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Originally Posted by Reiraku
It was called "The 90's". Pretty much every company in town ran that style in some form or another.
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The exception!
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I love Gen13 (or did anyways) as much as the next guy, but they kinda did it too at first.
"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict
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I so want Freefall's outfit on that cover, for my namesake. *makes plans to go to icon*
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Originally Posted by Reiraku
I love Gen13 (or did anyways) as much as the next guy, but they kinda did it too at first.
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Can't say I ever have converted clothes, GG. My last attempt at sewing resulted in a restraining order- I have to stay 50 feet away from any and all sewing machines at all times
More seriously, I still don't like the bared midriff, strange questions regarding the interrupted zipper aside- it's one more colour in an already busy costume. Overall? I actually quite like it. But she either needs more skin (for example, making the leather-ish... bellyshirt-thing... short sleeved could work, or maybe like the initial impression a lot of people had, that those actually were bikini briefs on bare legs... although I'm not sure that would be appropriate for Penny's character as presented thus far...), or else less skin, doing away with the silly bared midriff entirely.
At least (and this should go without saying, but eh, this is the internet), in my opinion.
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Changing the white parts of the leggings to black, I think would be a good way to go with that outfit.
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Originally Posted by TeChameleon
Can't say I ever have converted clothes, GG. My last attempt at sewing resulted in a restraining order- I have to stay 50 feet away from any and all sewing machines at all times
More seriously, I still don't like the bared midriff, strange questions regarding the interrupted zipper aside- it's one more colour in an already busy costume. Overall? I actually quite like it. But she either needs more skin (for example, making the leather-ish... bellyshirt-thing... short sleeved could work, or maybe like the initial impression a lot of people had, that those actually were bikini briefs on bare legs... although I'm not sure that would be appropriate for Penny's character as presented thus far...), or else less skin, doing away with the silly bared midriff entirely. At least (and this should go without saying, but eh, this is the internet), in my opinion. |
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One good thing the criticism has done, by keeping this thread going, is it keeps making me look at the in-game design and like it more and more!
Out of the choices shown thus far... My favorite color scheme is... David's!
I really like the way the three colors are used. It's sleek enough while also having that mishmosh punk aspect, which I don't think some of the posters here have a grasp of.
The red and white legs are a great nod to being a goodguy in Paragon City and I didn't need David's commentary to notice that!
The straps and bare belly and hair are a great indication of her spunk and punk.
The black is used well to cool off the white and red and also serves as a nice backdrop for the metal and the wiring of whatever tech she's got going on on her arms.
What I am really starting to like more and more is...
Sure, Penelope seems like a good, kind and respectful kid... And it'd be rather easy to paint her more conservative, traditional and such...
But I think it is great to have her adopt a bit of a punk appearance, as a great many good, kind and respectable kids (especially with rather extraordinary talents) take on a rebellious appearance.
While punk (and goth and other such styles) are often used in fiction for characters of lesser qualities, it is a nice approach to give someone we know to be a good kid such a style and remind (and maybe teach) some people that these types of styles aren't reserved for derelicts and no-good-nicks.
It's funny... this sort of super hero look isn't really my thing (My main wears full body tights and mask, haha!), I really am digging this outfit!
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Again, though - I personally don't really mind Leifeld's artwork or even the... "Bulk" of most of his characters. I'm quite partial to that style, myself. Especially the big guns. I just really don't like his taste for costume design. Like I said before, his tend to be very visually busy, and it ends up sapping their identity in the long run.|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
It's just an alternate spelling of "grotesque".
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A complex costume is not the same as a busy costume. Thor movie Thor has a fairly complex, intricate costume, but it's still iconic in its own way. Bayformers movie Transformers are so busy I can't tell them apart. Literally CANNOT.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Wow the detail and resolution puts all other signature heroes to shame. Now you're going to have to redo all of them.
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It's Penny's Yang-pack.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
What is the name of her backpack?
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You know what I'm fixating on? She has a belly button. When can I have one of those?
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We can only hope.
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Originally Posted by Santorican
Wow the detail and resolution puts all other signature heroes to shame. Now you're going to have to redo all of them.
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Originally Posted by NuclearToast
It's Penny's Yang-pack.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You know what I'm fixating on? She has a belly button. When can I have one of those?
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I hope not. Penny's costume has FAR too much detail in my eyes, or at the very least too much detail with not enough structure to it. We're reaching Darksiders level of over-detailing at this point, and we're not running the Unreal 3 engine. There ought to still be room for simpler designs, or at least designs with more structure to them.
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Originally Posted by Santorican
Wow the detail and resolution puts all other signature heroes to shame. Now you're going to have to redo all of them.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Please don't forget to do this. I know not what others may think, but I find this kind of thing endlessly fascinating.
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Originally Posted by Noble Savage
I could get way, WAY more specific and tell you why every rivet and strap is where it is, but I think I'd rather do that later, when you can see the actual concept art.
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Which is precisely why there are so many threads about Back Alley Brawler and his obscene costume.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
Some people think that seeing skin is a bad thing...
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Her costume is far more conservative than others and it's been labeled poorly simply because she's a woman.
Heck there are people opposed to what they're seeing simply because they don't want the young character from the stories they remember to grow up.
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If what she wears under the costume is anything like what she has painted on top of it then she's definitely not a little girl any more.|
Originally Posted by Party_Kake
Which is precisely why there are so many threads about Back Alley Brawler and his obscene costume.
Her costume is far more conservative than others and it's been labeled poorly simply because she's a woman. Heck there are people opposed to what they're seeing simply because they don't want the young character from the stories they remember to grow up. |
But I think we've established that shocking her father is probably one of her design priorities.
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That's really what bugs me much more than the midriff, personally.
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Originally Posted by SlickRiptide
If what she wears under the costume is anything like what she has painted on top of it then she's definitely not a little girl any more.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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