Is the Winter Event really enough to hold customer's attention?
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Ad Astra,
Posted on: 2011-12-16 15:14 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Not sure what you're saying.
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
No, I'm quitting right now.
Here I go.
I'm gonna totally do it this time.
Okay I'll stay.
The Winter event has nothing to do with any of that. It's simply an annual tradition.
The Loyalty Program, on the other hand...
People who were going to leave are going to leave regardless. Releasing rushed, incomplete, and unbalanced content would just make people dissatisfied with the game, not make them want to stay.
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Well, we did have the Seven Years of Super Rewards Vanguard Loyalty pack for subscriptions maintained for approximately the same time early this year as the upcoming 2012 Salute to Statesman Loyalty Program. It seems like a comparatively sensible marketing tactic to hold revenue steady for the first quarter.|
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
The Loyalty Program, on the other hand...
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EDIT: The old-school Loyalty program for month-to-month subscriptions has been superseded by the Paragon Market. Why pay for a subscription now only to receive the Reward Tokens later when they're delivered immediately with purchased Paragon Points?
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Wasn't that similarly conveniently timed with the release of a certain Distinguished Competitor, though?
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Well, we did have the Seven Years of Super Rewards Vanguard Loyalty pack for subscriptions maintained for approximately the same time early this year. It seems like a comparatively sensible marketing tactic to hold revenue steady for the first quarter.
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Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
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Is the event enough to hold customer attention from other pursuits which may or may not include activities that take place far, far away from here? Should they have released more of the incarnate slots to keep people from potentially wandering over to the dark side? Discuss. ::waves hand:: |
IMO yes, NOTHING will convince the majority of players who are going to try out that game from not doing so. Now what they can do is plan stuff to get their attention/numbers back here within a month or two once the hype of that game dies down.
i22 is a safe bet to [at least] be in beta feb for VIPs and with the hype dying down for that other game, a lot of our players who left to check it out will want to come back to test out one of the many new powersets, the solo incarnate path and all the awesome that would be in i22. The salute to statesman during this period is to make sure revenue doesnt suffer as greatly as it would.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Wasn't that similarly conveniently timed with the release of a certain Distinguished Competitor, though?
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ANOTHER CoX killer that was going to be too eh
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If saving the world's ugliest baby is all that's supposed to keep me in this game, then this game's got problems. 
Luckily there's more to the game than just that.
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Originally Posted by Organica
If saving the world's ugliest baby is all that's supposed to keep me in this game, then this game's got problems.
Luckily there's more to the game than just that. |
If there wasnt a badge for killing snaptooth i would never run that mission again! Lady Winter is so much more fun/simple! Even if she does destroy you with one lucky hit!
Seriously, everytime i get her down to 1/10th of her health with ease, 9/10 she'll one hit ko my scrapper! Know i should get out of her anti-scrapper aura but scrapperlock wont let me!
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Now that you mention it...|
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Wasn't that similarly conveniently timed with the release of a certain Distinguished Competitor, though?
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And the timing is a month after a particular occasion in both cases.
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I've never really gotten that mentality, to be honest. I play this game because I want to play this game, not because I feel compelled to be subscribed to an MMORPG. The idea of game X "killing" game Y is just...weird to me. I mean, barring sequels, maybe, has there ever been a case in the history of the medium where a new game came out and a previous one happened to conveniently die in its wake?|
Originally Posted by EU_Damz
ANOTHER CoX killer that was going to be too eh
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Of course, that said, it won't stop me from teasing Paragon about it, just for giggles.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
I've never really gotten that mentality, to be honest. I play this game because I want to play this game, not because I feel compelled to be subscribed to an MMORPG. The idea of game X "killing" game Y is just...weird to me. I mean, barring sequels, maybe, has there ever been a case in the history of the medium where a new game came out and a previous one happened to conveniently die in its wake?
Of course, that said, it won't stop me from teasing Paragon about it, just for giggles. |
I just like to bring it up because those other games tried to make a huge point about them killing us off yet we're still number 1
To make sure this post is on topic though . . . . . if you've been ingame today you'll notice it is a lot quieter today, but its to be expected if you ask me now for the next few weeks.
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Of course not. I'm not sure why you think it would. Luckily, there's a whole other game there to hold people's attention and that seems to be doing reasonably well, I'd say. Hell, I'm still messing with Titan Weapons.
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Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
Is the Winter Event really enough to hold customer's attention?
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Of course not. I'm not sure why you think it would. Luckily, there's a whole other game there to hold people's attention and that seems to be doing reasonably well, I'd say. Hell, I'm still messing with Titan Weapons.
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Hearing everybody say how awesome it is really getting me close to just going "oh hell" and purchasing it despite having no concept still!
Please let dark and staffs hurry up so i can play with them and not titans!
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I share your mentality about it, but I do know that the big exception/gorilla in the room called WoW grabbed a ton of players from the old mmorpg in a galaxy far far away. It pretty much decimated the population, luring players in with its smooth operation compared to SWG's buggy, not-smooth operation (I loved the game despite its bug filled bugginess, but it took a measure of patience greater than most people were willing to endure).|
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
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I mean, barring sequels, maybe, has there ever been a case in the history of the medium where a new game came out and a previous one happened to conveniently die in its wake? |
Other than the big killer that doesn't generally count called WoW, though, I don't know that it's ever happened.
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I mean, of course, there are many other factors that are involved in such things... and SWG endured on for years afterward (killing itself a few times more as it went), but there was zero question in witnessing a mass exodus when WoW came out and people who had been playing for a while left and never came back.
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this game is about flexible roles for players, heavy customization, a fair amount of openness to define your own character, and casual friendliness. nothing i have read in the blogs or friends reactions indicate that these things are available elsewhere. quite the opposite, other games have a bit more to worry about in that regard, but if you want what coh has to offer, it aint there. yeah some will leave, that happens any time a new game launches, but coh has been "killed" a few times, and its still there.
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Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
Rephrased thread:
Is the event enough to hold customer attention from other pursuits which may or may not include activities that take place far, far away from here? Should they have released more of the incarnate slots to keep people from potentially wandering over to the dark side? Discuss. ::waves hand:: |
I've spent the better part of this week in Coruscant, Tython, Korriban and Hutta. But City of Heroes is my heart. I'm subbed through 2013 for goodness sakes. But I've always been a two MMORPG guy, so for now it's CoH and some other game taking place a long, long time ago.
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
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Played that other game in a place a long, long time ago.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
I've spent the better part of this week in Coruscant, Tython, Korriban and Hutta. But City of Heroes is my heart. I'm subbed through 2013 for goodness sakes. But I've always been a two MMORPG guy, so for now it's CoH and some other game taking place a long, long time ago.
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Stopped after 6 hours.
There is another game on the market that rhymes with Mow that is too similar and that I've played to be impressed with anything in that new game.
Long live COH.
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Played that other game in a place a long, long time ago.
Stopped after 6 hours. There is another game on the market that rhymes with Mow that is too similar and that I've played to be impressed with anything in that new game. Long live COH. |
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
So this is a Star Wars thread?
Yawn. 
City of Heroes has more originality in its pinky finger.
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Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
So this is a Star Wars thread?
Yawn. City of Heroes has more originality in its pinky finger. |
There are a lot of good things about CoH. Originality isn't even a quality it possesses at all, let alone one of the good ones.
I think there's this misguided notion that the folks at Paragon Studios hate all other games. It's simply not true. They are gamers just like a lot of us are. I'm almost certain that most of them will be spending some time in a place "far, far away," as you put it.
In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that they don't really want this to be the only game you play. I think it is for a lot of people, and they tend to get jaded with City of Heroes. Sometimes you really have to go check out the grass on the other side of the fence to convince yourself that it's really not that much greener, and you actually have it pretty good. Also, it gives the player base a much broader knowledge and experience of the gaming industry as a whole, so they can do things like make more intelligent and relevant suggestions and bug reports.
Obviously, they want you playing City of Heroes a lot, and since they have to pay for the resources (disk space, bandwidth, etc.) and don't necessarily want to help other companies with advertising, they don't want you discussing competitors here. But the Winter Event isn't meant to hold your attention to the exclusion of all else. If nothing else, there are probably going to be a lot of people like me who are about to go out of town on a family vacation, so I'm going to be away several says in a place far, far away (well, a few hours north) that has nothing to do with gaming.
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
I'm not touching that "other game" until it's ah...relationship patch...goes live. CoH, the Distinguished Competition, and various offline rpgs, are more than enough to keep me occupied.
Rephrased thread:
Is the event enough to hold customer attention from other pursuits which may or may not include activities that take place far, far away from here?
Should they have released more of the incarnate slots to keep people from potentially wandering over to the dark side?
Discuss. ::waves hand::