The Statesman that dies will turn out to be a robot that is being controlled by a miniaturized real Statesman looking out through the eyeball.
Numina stops by Statesman's apartment/house/whereverthehellhelives and hears the shower running. She pulls back the curtain to see States alive and well revealing that WWD was all just a dream.
The remaining heroes kidnap Protean. Sister P then screws with his brain to make him believe that Protean has died and that he is really Statesman himself.
Dr. Vahzilok steals the body and performs his most successful experiment ever.
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My impression is that Episodes 6 & 7 will be a whole lot of "Holy pancake! Statesman is dead! What do we do now!?" And there will be something specific happening that will have people wondering how we're going to get through it without him.
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With States gone, Recluse has a change of heart, abandons the Rogue Isles, and dedicates himself to being the new champion and defender of Paragon.
...it could happen!
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A few things spring to mind...
1) Recluse siezes his opportunity and makes a serious push into Paragon City... I would guess Boomtown sees a serious uptick in Arachnos activity. Meanwhile he secretly tries to take out whoever offs States. Not through any feelings of revene but more "If he can kill States. I'm vunerable".
2) Wade's plans with Rularuu get even more bold. I'm wondering if he tries to become the new Well's Champion in order to free Rularuu. I do NOT see this ending well.. as Paragon & the RI will be caught square in the middle of a showdown of inter-dimensional god-like beings..... (I do see Wade going after The Midnight Club and Vanguard stepping in- possible a Vanguard incursion into the Shard)
3) Miss Liberty goes evil. This is the most obvious. She's teetering on the edge now with her heavy-handed activities in the RI with Longbow. This will push her right over the edge. I see her ordering a full-scale Longbow invasion, executions etc. I see the Regulators stepping in to stop her and a full scale "Civil War" scenario brewing.
One more thing about Wade. IF he becomes the Well's Champion... AND he is the Avatar of Rularuu as well... Could this finally be what brings The Battalion to earth? From the small hints we've gotten.. The battalion exterminated all the Kheldians to use as fuel for their fleets- IF they are 'attracted' to power sources.. wouldn't Wade then become the biggest dinner Gong in history?
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Maybe 7 will be the requisite "Who will take up the mantle as the New Statesman?" arc. I think BABs should become the new States.
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Originally Posted by Chris_Zuercher
My impression is that Episodes 6 & 7 will be a whole lot of "Holy C***! Statesman is dead! What do we do now!?" And there will be something specific happening that will have people wondering how we're going to get through it without him.
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I sincerely hope that State's demise coincides with a welcome return of Hero 1 as a full on Excalibur wielding, fully recovered, tea drinking, Preatorian Spanking incarnate!!
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In an antisipated and bland twist of fate...Stateman Dies. Positron then takes the reigns.
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Recluse rejoices, then he gets run over whilst jogging. Ghost Widow takes over for him.
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With the two leading superpowers dead, the new leaders have a choice to make. Ghost Widow, wanting to keep Recluse's Arachnos powerful, decides the best thing to do is join forces with the Heroes to stop the Preatorian threat. Positron, fueled by unadulterated ghost fetish, agrees to join forces as...Arachbow Longnos!
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With States gone, Recluse has a change of heart, abandons the Rogue Isles, and dedicates himself to being the new champion and defender of Paragon.
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Given parallel dimensions, Tyrant realizes that if Statesman is dead the universe will kill him off as well to maintain balance
to prevent that Tyrant aids the heroes in bringing Statesman back to life.
Villains are expect to help just because, the devs could not think of any motivation for them.
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Ok there's got to be a sting in the tail of the WWD arc. That's plain now, especially given the confirmation that Ol' Faceplate buys the farm in Ep 5.
We've got two subsequent issues to go and the fact the news is breaking early (ok many of us guessed it.) is clear there's got to be an even bigger reveal at the end of the tale, otherwise a huge percentage of the story's just hogwash that'll fizzle out from nowhere. So what is it? What's the big news? Let's get the speculative juices flowing |
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Recluse making a stab at Paragon City would make complete sense... unless he decides that Wade is the bigger threat at that moment. Which I think he's likely to do. I don't anticipate him becoming all heroic, but I could certainly see him forming a strategic (and very temporary) alliance with the heroes, especially through a certain liason...|
Originally Posted by Benchpresser
Recluse siezes his opportunity and makes a serious push into Paragon City... I would guess Boomtown sees a serious uptick in Arachnos activity. Meanwhile he secretly tries to take out whoever offs States. Not through any feelings of revene but more "If he can kill States. I'm vunerable".
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Originally Posted by Benchpresser
Miss Liberty goes evil. This is the most obvious. She's teetering on the edge now with her heavy-handed activities in the RI with Longbow. This will push her right over the edge. I see her ordering a full-scale Longbow invasion, executions etc. I see the Regulators stepping in to stop her and a full scale "Civil War" scenario brewing.
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Originally Posted by Benchpresser
Wade's plans with Rularuu get even more bold. I'm wondering if he tries to become the new Well's Champion in order to free Rularuu. I do NOT see this ending well.. as Paragon & the RI will be caught square in the middle of a showdown of inter-dimensional god-like beings..... (I do see Wade going after The Midnight Club and Vanguard stepping in- possible a Vanguard incursion into the Shard)
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Originally Posted by TsumijuZero
I sincerely hope that State's demise coincides with a welcome return of Hero 1 as a full on Excalibur wielding, fully recovered, tea drinking, Preatorian Spanking incarnate!!
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Now, my own speculation. I think we're going to see the Dream Doctor again. I've already laid this out in another thread, but considering the good Doc was the one who originally defeated Rularuu in the 1960s, it only makes sense for someone to dream him back into existence for a rematch, this time with Incarnate-powered assistance.
I think we're going to get a better idea of exactly who and what Lady Grey truly is, and exactly why she's considered more powerful than both Statesman and Recluse. I'm very sure she's an Incarnate herself, obviously taking the long path to power rather than the fast path chosen by States and Reccy. I'm also 95% sure that our (Primal) Hamidon is an Incarnate, and I have suspicions about Dark Watcher as well.
But what's my most insane theory? That DJ Zero is key to defeating Tyrant, and possibly Rularuu as well. It makes sense, in a subtle way. During the Praetorian Invasion not too long ago, we found out Zero not only is an Incarnate himself, he has the ability to block the powers of other Incarnates. He also has the power to create pocket dimensions and portals between dimensions. So he's theoretically capable of shutting off Cole's Incarnate abilities long enough for the primal Incarnates to stomp him into the ground, create a cuddly prison pocket dimension for him to stew in and toss him into it. And how did the Dream Doctor beat Rularuu? He created the Shadow Shard (a pocket dimension) and trapped Rularuu in it, with no way out. Zero can theoretically do that as well. Yes, the smiling DJ in Pocket D might just be the tactical nuclear weapon of the Incarnate Brigade.
Villain side.. Villains capture Statesmen and try to use the artifact on him. That fails to kill him. Statesmen is down but not out and he begs for Recluse to kill him and put an end to his suffering.. to take pity on him. Recluse refuses and is disgusted by how weak States has become. The heroes arrive to drive the villains off before states can be killed.
Hero side.. Heroes arrive just in time to see Wade and Recluse 'defeat' Statesmen. The heroes battle off Wade and Recluse leaving behind an injured but living statesmen.
Ms Liberty kills Statesmen with Excalibur. It wouldn't be because she's turning evil but because she takes pity on Statesmen when Recluse refuses to do so. States has had a long long life and its filled with the death of his loved ones. At some point you either lose your humanity and turn into Recluse or you give into it and want things to end.. but for an immortal that isn't easily done. Excalibur could most likely kill an immortal.
Arc ends with an image of a hero/villian in the shadows gaining the power of statesmen now that they have died. Next arcs will be dealing with how to reverse the effects and depower the now empowered villain and pushes the villain PC's into the role of the empowered demigod that needs to be defeated and deflated.
States dies in Ep. 5, funeral in Ep. 6 and Ep.7 will be the prep/cliffhanger for SSA#2 where we see Hero 1 turned back to human and assume the place of Statesman.
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States kills Tyrant, fakes his own death and goes to Praetoria to lead them in a new peaceful direction.
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~ Numina, sacrifices her very existance and brings States back with a powerfull res. But considdering his power, she uses all of hers to do it, and is finally laid to rest.
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This. Emphasis mine!
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There does seem to be an ideal opportunity for a changing of the guard, bringing in a number of the lesser known signature characters in time for the Battalion to arrive.
Hopefully too, the death of Statesman will signal the beginning of the end of the Incarnate crap we've had to endure.
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There does seem to be an ideal opportunity for a changing of the guard, bringing in a number of the lesser known signature characters in time for the Battalion to arrive. Hopefully too, the death of Statesman will signal the beginning of the end of the Incarnate crap we've had to endure. |
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Maybe 7 will be the requisite "Who will take up the mantle as the New Statesman?" arc. I think BABs should become the new States.
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With States gone, Recluse has a change of heart, abandons the Rogue Isles, and dedicates himself to being the new champion and defender of Paragon.
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I actually really love this idea... the ultimate redemption story for CoH
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Yeah! That would be a great bit of character development for Magnet--erm--Lord Recluse!
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I actually really love this idea... the ultimate redemption story for CoH
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Ok there's got to be a sting in the tail of the WWD arc. That's plain now, especially given the confirmation that Ol' Faceplate buys the farm in Ep 5.
We've got two subsequent issues to go and the fact the news is breaking early (ok many of us guessed it.) is clear there's got to be an even bigger reveal at the end of the tale, otherwise a huge percentage of the story's just hogwash that'll fizzle out from nowhere.
So what is it? What's the big news?
Let's get the speculative juices flowing
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