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So now that Darkness Control has been confirmed..........

android33

By android33,
Posted on: 2011-11-21 18:26 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion

 

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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
Hoping for a good pet. Already psyched for the set without knowing what the t9 is though.
This set actually makes me want to make a Dom again.

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Confirmed in the Ustream today Life Drain at tier 7 or 8 and Death Shroud at unspecified level are in.

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Just a guess but what I'd expect to see for the T9 would be smaller versions of "Fluffy" more like Imps or Gremlins. Maybe 2-3 who do moderate damage and To Hit Debuff.

 

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... A 16 foe target cap aoe cage available every spawn.







What?

 

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Originally Posted by concreteshift View Post
Any guesses on what the final power will be? I'm assuming it'll be a pet right? I'm hoping a Night Dragon or some Cthulu like creature. Anything but Fluffy 2.
Two words..
"Black"
"Hole"

....What?

 

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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade View Post
Night Fall or Umbral Torrent seems more likely in an Assault set to me. If a Dom wants a low damage immobilize, most primaries already have one.
I only put TT in there because Synapse said there'd be control, and it falls into that category.

I rather hope it's not Umbral Torrent...

 

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Originally Posted by joebartender View Post
Confirmed in the Ustream today Life Drain at tier 7 or 8 and Death Shroud at unspecified level are in.
Nice. Any chance if they confirmed whether it was Blaster or Defender Life Drain?

 

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Originally Posted by Mr. DJ View Post
I only put TT in there because Synapse said there'd be control, and it falls into that category.

I rather hope it's not Umbral Torrent...
God me too. Umbral Torrent is a horrible power. "Lets take one of the sets main AoEs and give it one of the most widely hated secondary effects in the game!"

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Heck, I don't even need Midnight Grasp. Gimme Siphon Life, and I'll be a happy camper. Or the Blaster version of Life Drain. Either one.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo View Post
Nice. Any chance if they confirmed whether it was Blaster or Defender Life Drain?
Just pointing out that ALL versions of Life Drain got the same changes as Blaster Life Drain. They're all 8 second recharges that deal 1.64scale damage and cost 8.53end (Except the MM version which costs more end cause of their inherent end cost penalty).

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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade View Post
Night Fall or Umbral Torrent seems more likely in an Assault set to me. If a Dom wants a low damage immobilize, most primaries already have one.
Tenebrous Tentacles isn't low damage though. It's certainly not the BEST AoE damage power, but it's respectable. (It's not the utterly trivial damage on a Control set's typical AoE immobilize.)

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Originally Posted by Dark_Impact View Post
Some dominator sets have a snipe, some don't. I haven't actually tallied, but I think currently slightly more do than not, so clearly in the interest of balance they should leave it out.
I believe that all sets where the theme HAS a snipe, the Assault set gets the snipe. Energy, Fire, Electric and Psychic all had snipes before their respective Assault sets were made, and those Assault sets got the snipe. Ice, Thorns and Earth snipes don't exist in any set anywhere, so those Assault sets didn't get snipes.

Dark has moonbeam. There's zero reason to think Dark Assault won't have it. (Even if most people don't want it.)

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Originally Posted by joebartender View Post
Confirmed in the Ustream today Life Drain at tier 7 or 8...
God I hope it's tier7.

I HATE waiting so freaking long to get Life Drain on my Defenders. Hell even at tier7 it's going to annoy me to no end having to wait 28levels for it (29 for some slotting, 31+ for full slotting).

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Originally Posted by joebartender View Post
and Death Shroud at unspecified level are in.
See.... just like Darkness Control... powers that don't make sense to me. Dark has always been a Cone centric theme, and ANY AoE attacks in Dark Assault are likely to be cones. Having a tiny radius PBAoE makes NO SENSE. Just like having a PBAoE Disorient in Darkness Control, where ALL OF YOUR OTHER AoE controls are cones, makes no sense to me.

Mud Pots, for what it is, works alright in Earth Assault cause Earth's AoEs are PBAoE or Target AoE. There's no need to move out of range for Mudpots to actually USE your other dang powers. This is unlikely to be true for Dark.

*Sigh*


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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex View Post
Is that what Beam Rifle, Staff Melee, Time Manipulation, and Dual Pistols were?

Electric Control, yes, definitely.

It's a matter of taste obviously but I'd have rathered almost anything else, and this is my only way to let them know.
One could argue that Beam Rifle and Dual Pistols *are* just variations on existing themes.

Thug MM -> Dual Pistols
Two handguns? Check.

Robot MM -> Beam Rifle
Laser Rifle? Check.

The actual mechanics and play style are very different, but the Themes were already present within the game.

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God me too. Umbral Torrent is a horrible power. "Lets take one of the sets main AoEs and give it one of the most widely hated secondary effects in the game!"
I find Umbral Torrent an excellent power that greatly enhances the survivability of my two Dark/ Blasters. And while there are plenty of knockback haters, there are also plenty of people who like it. Especially guaranteed knockback like Umbral Torrent has.

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I would love to have a T9 pet with invisibility so it is really hard to see, and a fear aura. And have it be as huge as possible. A big scary ghost...

 

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Originally Posted by Oathbound View Post
Just pointing out that ALL versions of Life Drain got the same changes as Blaster Life Drain. They're all 8 second recharges that deal 1.64scale damage and cost 8.53end (Except the MM version which costs more end cause of their inherent end cost penalty).
What was changed on life drain?

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Originally Posted by Pitho View Post
What was changed on life drain?
It's now a worthwhile attack.

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I'm kinda looking forward to Death Shroud in Dark Assault. Of course, I intend to pair it with Plant, so melee should be pretty safe.

I'm sitting on a name for a Dark/Psi dominator, too. Wanna test now, please!


 

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Originally Posted by Pitho View Post
What was changed on life drain?
Old Life Drain:
1scale damage, 15second recharge, (not sure what the end cost was... I want to say 12 or 13end, but I dunno)

New Life Drain:
1.64scale damage, 8second recharge, 8.53end

Better damage. Faster Recharge. Lower End Cost.

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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade View Post
I find Umbral Torrent an excellent power that greatly enhances the survivability of my two Dark/ Blasters. And while there are plenty of knockback haters, there are also plenty of people who like it. Especially guaranteed knockback like Umbral Torrent has.
My problem with Umbral Torrent really has more to do with it's cone size (though honestly I don't care for Knockback). It has a very long and narrow cone. This makes it difficult to fully utilize, meaning that even with the guaranteed knockback you still often end up scattering mobs, because you don't hit all of them. This also makes it very clunky to use with the other cone attack in the set, because TT only has HALF the range, and Umbral Torrent only has HALF the width. This means that more often that not you have to constantly reposition yourself just to make full use of your two AoE powers.

For Dominators I think this would only be exacerbated, because they spend a great deal of time in melee, meaning you're going to have to back off practically to maximum range everytime you want to use your damned AoE.

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Oh, now THIS is a step in the right direction. Very, very excited about this.

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Originally Posted by Gearsinger View Post
I'm kinda looking forward to Death Shroud in Dark Assault. Of course, I intend to pair it with Plant, so melee should be pretty safe.

I'm sitting on a name for a Dark/Psi dominator, too. Wanna test now, please!
I've been doing the same (name camping) for my future Mind/Dark vampyri Dom.

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Originally Posted by Oathbound View Post
My problem with Umbral Torrent really has more to do with it's cone size (though honestly I don't care for Knockback). It has a very long and narrow cone. This makes it difficult to fully utilize, meaning that even with the guaranteed knockback you still often end up scattering mobs, because you don't hit all of them. This also makes it very clunky to use with the other cone attack in the set, because TT only has HALF the range, and Umbral Torrent only has HALF the width. This means that more often that not you have to constantly reposition yourself just to make full use of your two AoE powers.

For Dominators I think this would only be exacerbated, because they spend a great deal of time in melee, meaning you're going to have to back off practically to maximum range everytime you want to use your damned AoE.
Most Assault sets and a couple of Control and Ancillary/Patron sets have at least one cone anyway and a lot of them have different ranges and arcs so I doubt it will be a problem.