Suggestions to improve Super Packs

Honestly, the only thing that bothers me about this (and I've said it before in other threads) is that I'm currently unemployed and don't have a lot of disposable income. I'm okay with the model itself, as I've done collectible cards in the past--I used to be big into the Marvel cards back in the 90s.

But if they're going to treat Super Packs like collectible card packs, then that means the rewards need to be tradeable. It's been mentioned that most of the rewards will probably be able to be sold at the auction house, but I'm not sure that's the right way to go. Make them actual in-game cards that you have to redeem for your rewards, and make the cards tradeable only for other cards--no gifting cards to another account that didn't buy any. Set up a Super Pack section on the forums where we can announce the cards we have for trade and what we're looking for. (Once claimed, things like IOs would still be salable on the market, but the cards themselves would not be.)

And as in real life, cards would need to be tradeable in different quantities... say you got a costume piece you don't want, but really want an ATIO card, and a friend of yours has the ATIO card and knows that your costume card isn't quite valuable enough on its own, so you trade the costume card and a couple enhancement booster cards to get it.

Additionally, when awarding a costume piece, PLEASE make sure that we never get duplicates of something that's already been claimed on the account, and NEVER make any of the Super Pack costumes "per character"--costumes purchased for real money should ALWAYS be account bound.

If the system worked similarly to what I described above and I had the money, I'd probably pick up around 5 Super Packs per week at the proposed $2 cost until I collected everything I wanted.

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Another idea is to have themed Super Packs.

Super Pack A has a collection of attack temporary powers.

Super Pack B has a collection of various temporary powers: One personal buff, one debuff, one melee attack, one ranged attack, one wild card.

Super Pack C has various temp boosters (5 use each): XP increase, Windfall, mission teleport, etc.

Super Pack D has event unlockable costume pieces, invention recipe costume pieces and limited-use (say 60 minutes) vanity pets: Hellenic Sandals, Piston Boots, German Shepherd Pet, MVAS, etc.

Super Pack E has uncommon/rare/very rare enhancement recipes and ATIOs. Each pack guarantees an ATIOs and at least one other rare.

Super Pack F has salvage. At least two are rare/very rare, and at least one of those is Incarnate rare/very rare.

What other Super Pack consumable themes would work well in sets of 5?

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I agree with Dr. Mechano, I think the 'exclusive' costume parts should be removed from the 'insert coin to try and grab machine', and believe by doing so, you will eliminate the majority of the player frustration.

Instead of getting an ATIO you get a voucher, when a character claims it they get a random ATIO for that character's AT.

Let me pick the specific ATIO I want, and let the other pieces of the Super Pack be random.

Or, let me pick any one item to be the non-random part of the Super Pack, and let the rest be random.

Add more kind of consumables which could drop in these packs, or be purchased individually. For instance, more temporary powers like the ones one can get in the weapons deal side missions in mayhems and safeguards. I like those, but once they're used up, they're gone. Let me get more of them.

First, the exclusive stuff has got to either go, or become non-exclusive.

I'd suggest that they be put in as is, but later they need to be put into the store like normal. Maybe rotate which of the ATIOs is for sale every week, so that you can get specific sets if you wait, or you can buy packs and hope.

Beyond that, though, is what else is in the Super Packs. The simple fact is, I think they're selling the wrong things. If they want people to buy them and keep buying them, then they need to fill them with things that people KEEP reusing and needing/wanting more of.

Something to upgrade an ATIO? Nope, not going to be using those left and right. The Chaingun temp power? Oh yeah, THAT I'll use. And if it's for a limited number of uses, and only claimable by one character, then I'll need another for the next character even if the first still has charges on it.

Most of the temp powers you can get in the game would be good for this. Iron Sword, Kinetic Shield, Bow and Arrow, Prismatic Taser... all useful, at least at low levels. There's options for new powers, too. A one-use (no timer) version of Inner Inspiration, for example. Or maybe a 5 minute duration summons of a non-controlled version of one of the MM pets? Very Rare chance of a Shivan or Warburg nuke, maybe?

Give us things we use in battle, not things we use when we're checking our notes and carefully planning out our build or shopping at the market. Market/Build stuff might be valuable, but it's not as intense as actual combat. I'm far more likely to use a temp power on impulse because that EB is a bit too tough, or because while I can Foostomp those Rikti....it's a <bleep>ing CHAINGUN, and that's just more fun!

Final thought (for now):

I would suggest that, if you do wish to put costume stuff in there, you also include account-wide unlocks for things like the Dragon Wings and Rocket Boots that are currently recipe drops in-game. That does open up the idea of also making the costume sets in the Super Packs available in-game as recipe drops. I do not think that would work as well, however, as there's a big difference between trying to get one item (wings) as compared to trying to get every item in a full set.

A variety of new temp powers with different vfx, themes, and damage types would be nice, and I could see circumstances where I'd buy them.

Another problem with the consumables are the very sparse descriptions of them on the market. For instance, "Shielded Dual Inspiration (Small) x1" has this description: "x1 - Small (+Def/+Res) Dual Inspiration" Okay, fine not buying that because I have no idea what I'm actually getting. How much Def? How much Res? How long does it last? Is it positional or typed defense? Which damage types for the Res? All? Most? Some? Sure, I could go to paragon wiki and look them up, and hope that's filled in and accurate, but not while I'm in game mulling over a purchasing decision.

If you want the Super Packs to be attractive, a good start would making the parts that make them up attractive, and right now, the only way in-game to even know what they are is to buy and try them. I think people would understandably be reluctant to buy something like that.

I will add one other constructive post to this thread.

I, personally, would be okay with exclusive costume pieces in the super packs on the one condition that when the super packs are released, a reasonable release date (no more than 2-3 months later) and reasonable price (equivalent to current costume costs) is also announced when the costume pieces will be made available as store purchases. By this I mean that I would be okay if people who bought super packs got a preview of costume pieces I can buy at a somewhat later date for a reasonable price. I speak for myself alone with this suggestion.