I dunno. I am going with TW/EA. I have no idea how to cap him to anything. I am going with 3 erad/2 membrane/somethingmulti in DS, 6 touch in one st attack, 4 kincom, 1 mako quad,1 end redux in my other st, 3 erad/somethings in 2 of my cones, and 6 oblits in my last cone. I have absolutely no idea what to slot anything else, but I am getting tough/weave also, and maybe/probably sj. The 3 sets of erad should give me 4.5 ranged def, 9 e/n def. The oblit/kincom should give me 5.6 melee and 5.6 lethal, and DS should give me ~35% melee/smash when stacked once. That alone should give me 40.6 melee not including my actual toggles. I have no idea what it would give me for e/n def. Is this enough ranged def when you slot out the toggles with def enhs? I am thinking to use hami-os if i can afford them, or else just 3 slot reactive armors for 1.8 ranged for 6.3 def total, and shove hami-os in there for the rest of the slots (4, maybe 5 slots in each def toggle).
At that point, including some buffed tough/weave, what am I really sitting at for defense? Would I be softcapped to e/n/s/m/r? EA doesn't have much resistance, so...
Thanks for reading. 
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Hew in drag baby
I think TW/WP is going to be pretty standard for a while.
You might not be able to softcap many defenses with WP, but S/L is usually more than enough with the amount regeneration you're capable of with WP.
I think the fact that WP has quick recovery and the potential to have physical perfection from the epic power pools will make it pretty popular with TW since it sounds like TW might be rather endurance intensive.
Furthermore, since TW is said to have many AoE attacks it really does lend itself well to rise to the challenge.
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Plus there's no real clickies to worry about, so no redraw, and no losing momentum by cliking a heal power (which takes away from your momentum time).|
Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
I think TW/WP is going to be pretty standard for a while.
You might not be able to softcap many defenses with WP, but S/L is usually more than enough with the amount regeneration you're capable of with WP. I think the fact that WP has quick recovery and the potential to have physical perfection from the epic power pools will make it pretty popular with TW since it sounds like TW might be rather endurance intensive. Furthermore, since TW is said to have many AoE attacks it really does lend itself well to rise to the challenge. |
I can easily see INV and WP being the popular choices. SR as well, if they learn to click the Mez Protection when needed, instead of everytime it's up.
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The BrandX Collection
/WP is the only set I am willing to ever play with a Weapon based primary. The redraw caused by any set with clicks pisses me off to the point of either having to skip a useful click or just delete the character.
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INV's one click is Dull Pain, which even if made perma, should never actually be made to be kept on perma.
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Originally Posted by joebartender
/WP is the only set I am willing to ever play with a Weapon based primary. The redraw caused by any set with clicks pisses me off to the point of either having to skip a useful click or just delete the character.
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BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
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those are brute builds, but it can be ported easely to scrappers:|
-Power Slice = Crushing Blow (starter ST attack) I did not use defensive sweep to keep a good ST chain -Vengeful Strike = Follow Through (T3 ST attack, need momentum) -Blinding Deint = Build Up -Sweeping Strike = ... Sweeping Strike (Cone attack) -Ablating strike = Shatter Armor (high damage ST attack with def and res debuff) -Typhoon Edge = Whirling Smash (pbae attack, need momentum) -One Thousand Cuts = Arc Of Destruction (high damage cone attack) |
TW/ElecA: 45% S/L, 32.5% E/N. it's energy res is high enough, so I'm not sure it need 45%. if you have some hard times, use a small purple !
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Power Slice -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(5), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), RctvArm-ResDam(7)
Level 2: Vengeful Slice -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 4: Lightning Field -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(17), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(19), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(21)
Level 6: Sweeping Strike -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(23), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(25)
Level 8: Blinding Feint -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(25)
Level 10: Conductive Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), RctvArm-ResDam(29)
Level 12: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(29), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(31), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(31), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(31), Zinger-Dam%(33)
Level 14: Static Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(33), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RctvArm-ResDam(34)
Level 16: Grounded -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 18: Ablating Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 22: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(37), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam(39)
Level 26: Typhoon's Edge -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(40), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 28: Energize -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(42), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(42), Dct'dW-Heal(42), Dct'dW-Rchg(43)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(43), HO:Enzym(43)
Level 32: One Thousand Cuts -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(45), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(45), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 35: Power Sink -- Mocking-Rchg(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(46), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(46), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(48)
Level 38: Superior Conditioning -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(48)
Level 41: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(48)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(50)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Power Surge -- BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(15), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(15)
Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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TW/inv: this one is 45% S/L/E/N
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.952
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Nimble Slash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(5), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), RctvArm-ResDam(7)
Level 2: Power Slice -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam(19)
Level 6: Sweeping Strike -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(21), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(23), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(23)
Level 8: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(25), Dct'dW-Heal(27), Dct'dW-Rchg(27)
Level 10: Resist Elements -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(29)
Level 12: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt/Rng(A), Zinger-Taunt(45), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(46), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(46)
Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Unyielding -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(29), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Aegis-ResDam(31), Aegis-Psi/Status(31)
Level 18: Ablating Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 20: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(34), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(34)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(36), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RctvArm-ResDam(36)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(37), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(37)
Level 26: Blinding Feint -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(37), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 30: Typhoon's Edge -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Armgdn-Dmg(39), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 32: One Thousand Cuts -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(42), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(42), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(43)
Level 38: Gloom -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(45), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 41: Darkest Night -- DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DampS-ToHitDeb(46), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(48)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(13)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(13), P'Shift-EndMod(15), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(15)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.952
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Nimble Slash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(5), Mrcl-Heal(7), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(7), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(9)
Level 2: Power Slice -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Sweeping Strike -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(19), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Oblit-%Dam(23)
Level 8: Fast Healing -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(25)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(25), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(27)
Level 14: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(29), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31), DampS-ToHitDeb(33), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(33)
Level 18: Ablating Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Achilles-ResDeb%(36)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(37), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), RctvArm-ResDam(37)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 26: Blinding Feint -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(39)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40)
Level 32: One Thousand Cuts -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(42), Armgdn-Dmg(42), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), FrcFbk-Rechg%(43)
Level 35: Gloom -- Apoc-Dam%(A), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(43), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apoc-Dmg(45)
Level 38: Strength of Will -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(45), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 41: Darkest Night -- DampS-ToHitDeb(A), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(46), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(46)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 47: Tactics -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(48), HO:Cyto(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(15)
Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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if you are interested, I also have a S/L softcaped TW/FA brute, a S/L/E/N Softcaped TW/DA build, and a 47.5(1 purple insp to incarnate softcap) S/L/E + 45% F/C def TW/EA scrapper build
English isn't my birth language, so don't blame me if I do some mistakes. thank you !
I'm leaning towards Fiery Aura myself. I don't really care that every time I heal I have to pull the weapon back out, since with the right timing you can do so between Momentum periods. Even if you waste Momentum to heal, it's easy enough to get back.
@Rorn ---- Blue Baron ---- Guardian
I'm thinking might give Dark Armor a try. It'll help with a bit of control and maybe get them packed in tight and allow to get good positioining. As long as the endurance is manageable. I checked TW out just not for long so not sure if my thoughts on control and positioning is going to really matter. Anyone else try this combo with more experience playing it then my few minutes?
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Your blue bar will be hurting until you place lots of end rdx into your powers. Probably would be a good idea to grab Conserve Power and possibly Ageless.|
Originally Posted by DeathHarvester
I'm thinking might give Dark Armor a try. It'll help with a bit of control and maybe get them packed in tight and allow to get good positioining. As long as the endurance is manageable. I checked TW out just not for long so not sure if my thoughts on control and positioning is going to really matter. Anyone else try this combo with more experience playing it then my few minutes?
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I believe I will go TW/Elec, grab 59% with double stacked Defensive Sweep or using Shadow Meld
Trying to work Crushing Blow into the build, can't decide what to drop >.>
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TW/Elec Brute for me, I'm thinking about just going Defensive, dropping Crushing Blow, & building for M/R/A softcap. Use Defensive in my attack chain to push melee defense high enough to where I don't have to IO for it as much.
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Originally Posted by War-Nugget
I believe I will go TW/Elec, grab 59% with double stacked Defensive Sweep or using Shadow Meld Trying to work Crushing Blow into the build, can't decide what to drop >.> |
The Only Token Black Guy
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Originally Posted by Granite Agent
Momentum and redraw lean me towards a secondary that requires few or no clickies. Specifically I am thinking of WP, INV, or maybe ELA.
My problem is trying to build any of those sets to have soft-cap to S/L/E/N with decent resists. I have not come up with a great build for WP or ELA that does this. |
Ela only needs SM/L.
Here's what I have for WP.
- 3 ST attacks.
- Blinding Feint stands in for Build Up
- Leap Attack stands in for Defensive Sweep.
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I'm thinking about Electric, fire, and Dark. With electric I'm planning on getting 32.5 to M/R/A and shadowmeld, still deciding on whether I will use barrier or rebirth. With Dark I'm going full 45% D/R/A, should be monster survivable and deal good damage. With fire I'm just aiming for smashing/lethal, mostly going to be an offensive superstar.
TW/Elec Optimization
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I'm a also considering those as well and maybe will power.
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Originally Posted by Combat
I'm thinking about Electric, fire, and Dark.
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I'm changing my answer to Regen. I think it will be a less popular combo that proves more effective than people expect. I'm in the process of testing it still, but I don't see a point in development where it becomes as irritating as people seem to think it will. Hopefully the combo will reward me for my faith in it.
@Rorn ---- Blue Baron ---- Guardian
I redid my TW/Fire brute on beta this morning. Hitting the soft-cap (actually around 47% to S/L) without the melee bonus and jumped into a couple missions. . . I can tell you with the tier 4 cardiac this was a ballet of death! I haven't had this much fun with a toon in a long, long time.
Yes, leveling him will be a challenge with end issues but otherwise. . . SO MUCH FUN!
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Yeah after testing 3 of them, TW/WP really is a great combo. Anything with clickies severely affects the momentum mechanic.
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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
I think TW/WP is going to be pretty standard for a while.
You might not be able to softcap many defenses with WP, but S/L is usually more than enough with the amount regeneration you're capable of with WP. I think the fact that WP has quick recovery and the potential to have physical perfection from the epic power pools will make it pretty popular with TW since it sounds like TW might be rather endurance intensive. Furthermore, since TW is said to have many AoE attacks it really does lend itself well to rise to the challenge. |
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I'm curious to hear how it goes for you. I'd probably do it too, but I just have too many Regens already. I feel the need to diversify more. |
Originally Posted by Vauluur
I'm changing my answer to Regen. I think it will be a less popular combo that proves more effective than people expect. I'm in the process of testing it still, but I don't see a point in development where it becomes as irritating as people seem to think it will. Hopefully the combo will reward me for my faith in it.
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Am still being tempted to think that TW/INV soft-capped to S/L/E/N (and with Aid Self and Rebirth) is likely to outdo TW/WP late game.
I wish mids would update so we could see some real TW/ builds already. I am nearly convinced on TW/ELA but want to see some MIDS!
I just dont see how you can cap melee/ranged with tw/elec. I can get it in the 30%s, but no where near 45%. It is possible to softcat at 46-49% melee with a single application of defensive sweep. However, ranged, just cant see any way to do it with elec.
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Hew in drag baby
So I have been playing around with Titan Weapons on test. It's a fun set with a cool rhythm due to the Momentum mechanic.
Momentum and redraw lean me towards a secondary that requires few or no clickies. Specifically I am thinking of WP, INV, or maybe ELA.
My problem is trying to build any of those sets to have soft-cap to S/L/E/N with decent resists. I have not come up with a great build for WP or ELA that does this.
Using DB as a proxy -- similar number of attacks in cone/PBAOE (missing 1 cone, with the -RES attack coming later than lvl 2 but you get the idea) -- I modified my FM/INV build to at least leave it with that soft-cap (S/L/E/N) with 1 foe in range of Invinc. But the resists for E/N in particular are not good on INV. Aid Self covers the hole a bit. But for incarnatey goodness, I would love to see some other builds that get /WP and /ELA to the sweet spot.
What do you guys think?
Perhaps the better way to go is M/R/A with Melee being buffed by Defensive Sweep? That still wouldn't address the E/N resist issue.
(in the build below, BF is the placeholder for Defensive Sweep. and i have some extra slots. and on a scrap, it would be conserve power and pp).