Unhappy with the Alignment System.

First of all this is from a PVP standpoint.

i21 made an amazing change to the system giving your character the option to go red or blue at birth...EXCELLENT. However it fell short by still requiring you to spend days just to switch sides. From an RP standpoint this is understandable but for many players it is just tedious.

I propose...

Since most PVPers DO NOT care about roleplaying or the storyline, we have an option upon entering a PVP zone to fight on either side. This will also help with balancing issues. Zones are always so lopsided because people generally do not have toons on both sides.

What PvPers? They left when I13 killed PvP.

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It's not an RP or storyline issue, the devs don't want you to be able to change alignment at the drop of a hat. It's a matter of how they want the game mechanics to work.

It's also really not that tedious unless you just want to be able to switch alignments back and forth willy-nilly, which I think is pretty ridiculous.

I thought zone PvP was dead anyway.

The Arena pretty much serves this purpose. If you want mixed teams, go there. If you want to zone PvP (lol), go to a zone.

Aren't there free-for-all PVP zones, where your "side" is whatever team you may happen to be on?

Yes actually, Warburg is like that.

And since both Warburg and the Arena already operate the way the OP wants there is no reason to change the other PvP zones.

Other than Leo the rest of you have some misguided understanding of PVP and simply disregarded my OP. So to clarify.

Leave everything the same except:

Make an option to zone into PVP to either side.

Siren's Call (Freedom) and RV (Freedom) Have plenty of frequent players. People play the two zones specifically for a reason.

Warburg DOES NOT allow you to enter on either side. It is simply Free-for-ALL.

Arena is an entirely different concept than zone PVP and thus has nothing to do with this. People choose to go into zone PVP for the non ending free world living environment. Arena is meant to fight a match with definite ending and definite victor.

Simply put. Add a single option to choose red or blue when entering a PVP zone. The rest is irrelevant.

The A system is fine as it is and should not be changed for anyone..if pvper's what to change side...either start on the right side or do the switch...why should they have the choice whenever and others dont?

Warburg is FFA
YOU CANNOT team with players of a different alignment
Do your research people.

I often hear "i'd switch but i dont have any vills". Come on! This option will hurt NO ONE.

Arctic brought up an interesting point. I'd be happy if they just allowed Vigilante's and Rogues to PVP on either side. I'd just make all of my toons vigilante's and rogues as would most of the PVP base. Perfect. No one dies.

As it was said before this could work if you are a vigl/rouge. They could prolly get it to work, but you have to remind yourself. This is PvP the devs don't read forms that have to deal with PvP. Besides we are still holding out that they remove HD, TS, DR so I would put this low on any patch list.

But yes from a PvP stand point I know what you mean, and I wouldnt mind if I could change sides for fights in RV when the bases are camped.

I'd be okay with Vigilantes and Rogues zoning in on either side.

Heroes and Villains, as mentioned, would get immediately droned upon zoning in as the opposite faction. Rogues and Vigilantes might as well.

Being droned wouldn't be too horrible of a penalty, because you would simply be teleported to the faction appropriate hospital. The problem there would be: Once you've been teleported to the hospital, how do you leave the zone on the proper side, since you couldn't get anywhere near the entrance without being droned again?

It would be a pain for a Vigilante or Rogue to get back to the missions they were running before if they were forced to leave via the Villain or Hero entrance and were running missions on the opposite side, but if you really want the feature, I don't see any particular reason to disallow it. Unless it's hardwired into the zone mechanics that you are automatically the faction you enter the zone from, in which case it might actually be impossible to implement.

I wouldn't go so far as to say this is a "RP vs PvP" thing. Roleplayers don't need the 'days to switch sides' any more than non-roleplayers do. if anything, RP'ers prove themselves more flexible to make anything work with any concept they have.

The devs likely decided on the delayed-shift system before they decided to consolidate markets. The delay had a functional effect in keeping smuggling between markets down. It also adds some 'gravity' to what's supposed to be a difficult choice, another good thing.


As for the OP's suggestion, though.

- Bloody Bay always made the most sense to me for a "free for all" warburg- style gameplay. It fits the theme of the zone rather well, overall. IIRC, this was brought up way back in Beta and it was stated that since BB is the lowest PvP zone, they wanted a low-confusion rulesset that was easy to just enter and go.

- Siren's call... this would seem to be more of a "villain incursion" zone that would justify well-defined battle lines, but the Bounty system here would sure make this interesting as a "free for all" system.

So let's see...
You aren't interested in story or RP or reading in general.
You don't want to spend a lot of (ideally, any) time leveling.
You don't want to spend time switching sides.
You just want to jump straight to 50 and start punching faces.
Right?

I have to wonder, again, why you are playing this game instead of any of the many others that offer instant (and usually better balanced and less frustrating) PvP action. There are many games in which you don't have to level up, you don't have to grind, you don't have to spend days or weeks putting together a build... you can just jump right in and do it. Why, other than sheer perversity, do you insist on trying to shove a square peg in a round hole?