Set up for stroke victim


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I have a friend who has lost the use of one arm due to a stroke. He is interested in joining CoH but is concerned about whether or not he will be able to handle the game with his disability.

Does anyone have any advice for modifications to keymapping or setup that might make play easier for him?

Thanks in advance!


 

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Depending on which arm isn't usable, something like the Logitech G13 Gameboard might fit the bill.

The joystick can be mapped to movement, and the other keys to powers and such.


 

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Originally Posted by Ultramime View Post
I have a friend who has lost the use of one arm due to a stroke. He is interested in joining CoH but is concerned about whether or not he will be able to handle the game with his disability.

Does anyone have any advice for modifications to keymapping or setup that might make play easier for him?

Thanks in advance!

1: Which arm (and was he right/left handed before)
2: Complete loss of the arm? Or does he have any use in the hand/elbow/shoulder?
3: How recent was this stroke? And is he in physical therapy for it?



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The right arm, and he was right-handed. He has been in PT for two years now, so he has done pretty well at retraining his left hand - he has sloppy handwriting, but he can use it pretty well.

From what he has told me, the loss of function is around 50%, but includes virtually all feeling, so he can't, for example, feel when he is pushing a button with that hand and when he isn't without actually looking. He can't really use a mouse with that hand, and from what he tells me he would be playing with one hand, moving back and forth between keyboard and mouse as needed..

He's on disability at the moment, having lost pretty much everything to the stroke, so buying specialized hardware is probably not in the picture. He has a computer with a standard keyboard.


 

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I think Razor makes a mouse that has a bunch of mappable buttons on it designed specifically for MMOs. That might help him while he's using the mouse. I'm not exactly sure how cheaply that mouse can be bought for but something like that might be a viable "one hand" solution. Good luck to him regardless.


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
I think Razor makes a mouse that has a bunch of mappable buttons on it designed specifically for MMOs. That might help him while he's using the mouse. I'm not exactly sure how cheaply that mouse can be bought for but something like that might be a viable "one hand" solution. Good luck to him regardless.
Sadly, all of the specialty mice are not made for lefties. All of the buttons are on the left side near where the right hand's thumb rests normally. That makes it incredibly uncomfortable to use it with the left hand.


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Someone beat me to the Naga, but as it is his right hand I'd give a ps2 style controller a try (logitech makes some for around $20 though not all of them play nice with CoH). That's what I use when my right arm decides not to work though for me it is motor control problem with only some loss of touch (so far) so ymmv.

You'll need to avoid targeted location powers as you can't macro the left click and combinations that are clicky heavy can be a pain (I use goto_tray macros to change the bottom tray and have the buttons aside from start and select assigned there, warshades are surprisingly friendly to this setup). The four face buttons on the right are big and there's only two shoulder buttons on each side (used by different fingers) and anyone who has skyped me while playing can attest to the rather positive click sound feedback of the pad.


 

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I think this may be the best solution so far. Especially since it's designed for the left hand. And not just for games, but for more general computer use as well - depending on the keypad set-up.

Still probably won't work for Chat, but who chats and 'arrests' villains at the same time?

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He's on disability at the moment, having lost pretty much everything to the stroke, so buying specialized hardware is probably not in the picture. He has a computer with a standard keyboard.
If you/he find something that looks like it will work, I will make sure he gets one. We can do it with a throwaway Paypal account.


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I have a friend with CP, so very similar results. Honestly the standard setup is fine. Keep the primary attack chain on 12345, keep toggles on an upper tray and set them before battle. Tab through enemies and attack at will. Movement is somewhat slowed if you don't mouse look but not that much. Grab recall friend for tunnel maps and have a blast.

My buddy with CP plays all the time. In fact he introduced me to the game back in the day. If he wants to play support, there are key binds to toggle through allies as well. You can find the in th defender forum.


 

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Personally, I'd recommend remapping the QWE/ASD keys on key to the right so as to be the WER/SDF keys instead. That makes it easier to reach the ~123456 keys directly above and the F1 through F5 (or F6, depending on finger reach) with relative ease that can be managed by muscle memory alone (ie. eyes front, full time). You then have the Q and A buttons free for things like Follow and Autorun ... can use ZXCV for various functions as preferred, and can assign the TYU/GHJ keys for even more common/repeat tasks as needed by AT.

I use the TY/G keys on my Warshade for Nova/Human/Dwarf forms, so as to be able to be able to form shift while moving.

I use the TYU keys as my Ammo Types on my Dual Pistols Defender, so that they're "handy" while moving around in combat.

I use the TYU keys for Summoning Ninja Pets on my Mastermind, and the GH keys for the Train powers.

I would recommend against your friend playing a Mastermind since even with the Keypad Bind Files, that's a "handful" to control even for someone with two fully functional hands! There have been many times playing my Mastermind when I wished I had three hands in order to control everything!

Sounds like Melee Monsters and Blasters/Dominators would be the best ATs for your friend to "drive" given his physical limitations on User Inputs.


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Pretty much everything in the game can be done one-handed with just the keyboard. Keymappings, binds, and macros are your friend.

There are keymappings in the options menu for turning left/right/up/down, which is a bit clunkier than mouse look, but it will do.

Additionally, moving the left hand slightly to the right, to ESDF as your movement keys instead of WASD opens up a world of possibilities. In addition to binding powers to 123456, you can also set up binds/keymapping for QAZ, TGV, and X and C.

For example, I use QAZ and GV for powers, T for targeting, and X for downward movement when flying. I use W and R for strafing, but he could easily bind those to look up/down instead.


 

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Thanks to everyone who has responded so far!


 

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If you/he find something that looks like it will work, I will make sure he gets one. We can do it with a throwaway Paypal account.
Aye to this. If it makes his life easier, I simply don't go to the movies a couple times. With the quality of some of the flicks nowadays, he's doing me a favor.



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He's on disability at the moment, having lost pretty much everything to the stroke, so buying specialized hardware is probably not in the picture. He has a computer with a standard keyboard.
..And thus the need for NCsoft to figure out some way for us to gift things to other players. Given that we've had two people volunteer to acquire the hardware, I'd be willing to chip in for two or three months of VIP status to help out, except that NCsoft has made it almost impossible to do so.


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Wow, there are some very nice people here.

I would *like* to help, but my financial situation is no better than your friend's. I do hope he recovers as much as possible.


 

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..And thus the need for NCsoft to figure out some way for us to gift things to other players. Given that we've had two people volunteer to acquire the hardware, I'd be willing to chip in for two or three months of VIP status to help out, except that NCsoft has made it almost impossible to do so.
Almost but not quite.



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Ultramime, if your friend is willing to accept donations, add me to the list of people willing to help out. I'm not certain of the logistics just yet... But I am sure we can set this friend up.

As for "not adding hardware," should the donations not work out: I think focusing on the right side of the keyboard (if there is a numpad) might work better than the standard left side. I haven't actually tried it myself, but the arrow keys can be for movement, and the whole numpad is right there for the binding. Control and Alt are within easy reach, as well as shift and Enter. (As well as the numpad Enter which counts as a different key.)


 

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If you/he find something that looks like it will work, I will make sure he gets one. We can do it with a throwaway Paypal account.
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Aye to this. If it makes his life easier, I simply don't go to the movies a couple times. With the quality of some of the flicks nowadays, he's doing me a favor.
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..And thus the need for NCsoft to figure out some way for us to gift things to other players. Given that we've had two people volunteer to acquire the hardware, I'd be willing to chip in for two or three months of VIP status to help out, except that NCsoft has made it almost impossible to do so.
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Ultramime, if your friend is willing to accept donations, add me to the list of people willing to help out. I'm not certain of the logistics just yet... But I am sure we can set this friend up.


As someone that has loved and lost a stroke victim I applaud the selfllessness and heart shown in this thread! Threads like this make it obvious why I love this community.


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There are keyboards and mice made for people with disabilities. There are even foot pedals that can be programmed so that a step of a foot could move the mouse.

Check out this link as it lists many types of products that could help out: http://www.makoa.org/computers.htm

For donations, someone should ask Real World Hero if they'd be willing to set up something for him.


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As someone that has loved and lost a stroke victim I applaud the selfllessness and heart shown in this thread! Threads like this make it obvious why I love this community.
Pfft. You're talking to someone whose grandmother survived a bunch of massive strokes in the mid-80's. They didn't understand about physical therapy back then. She had muscle contractions and they just cut the tendons, leaving her with two clubs on her left side. But she still managed to get around.

Then again, she outlived all the doctors who told her she didn't have 5 years left (on multiple occasions over a 15 year period) and only just died a couple weeks ago. Since Hell hasn't had any reports of unusual activity, I'm assuming she's taken charge upstairs and is putting God through his paces (poor SOB) right about now.



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I had a stroke when I was 14, and had partial paralysis in the right side of my body. I was able to relearn how to use it, thankfully, after months of PT. I can fully imagine what your friend is going through right now. Tell them to stay strong.

Logitech G13 Programable Gameboard is left handed.

Also the Steel Series Merc Stealth keyboard has a gaming pad on the left hand side of the board, and the keys can be bound to any key.

The Nostomo Game Pad is left handed and can be fully customized with what keys are what.

The Ideazon MERC Gaming Keyboard, like the Merc Stealth, has a game pad on the left hand side of the keyboard.

Most of the Zboards have a game pad on the left side of the keyboard.

The Razor Death Adder is a gaming mouse for the left hand.


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Then again, she outlived all the doctors who told her she didn't have 5 years left (on multiple occasions over a 15 year period) and only just died a couple weeks ago.
Condolences on the loss. She sounds indomitable!


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The right arm, and he was right-handed. He has been in PT for two years now, so he has done pretty well at retraining his left hand - he has sloppy handwriting, but he can use it pretty well.
To be honest, I'm right handed too and I can play CoH entirely with my left hand. And quite often do.

I keep my left hand on homerow, which means on ASDF. I can reach 1-6 easily, 7-0 with a little moving. With the addition of alt and ctrl I can get 12-18 power clicks within easy reach. Being on homerow also means I can move my character around easily, and jump. I do however use ESDF instead of WASD (that's the same thing, just shifted one key over so my index finger rests on the home keys). I normally don't have to move around much mid combat. Ranged characters handle this easier, but even on melees I just tab through targets and use a follow key (bound to G). I also have V bound to "target nearest." All of this is done with just one hand, without much movement from the home keys. With a little bit more movement you can hit the F keys for inspirations.

The only time I'd ever need to use my right hand would be to click on something. Normally my right hand is just resting on a mouse. I might be fiddling with the zoom or volume or something. Sometimes when my other computer is up I may be typing on it. Yes, I can type with one hand. Anyway, my right hand isn't necessary for play. 99% of the game including combat and just getting around can be done with one single hand on homerow. He might have to move his hand to click on NPCs and glowies but that's about it. And this is just a setup with a regular keyboard with no special binds.

Hope your friend finds a configuration that works out for him.


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