Heroic Patrons!

EATs don't get APPs.

I would like to see energy M parton kept the same..being selfish here but the 2 endurance boost powers currently is a g*d send for my brute and rather not loose them

but for what uve mentioned...not bad. some good stuff there..better then ive seen before on this matter

I'd like to see ancil/patrons added for praetorias too. But in a different way since right now there is no way to declare yourself a loyalist or a resistance member as a primal.

When you defeat the praetorian AVS you could unlock the ability to use some of their powers. So if you defeat anti-matter for example, you might unlock some radiation attacks, temp invulnerability, a summon clockwork power and some utility power. Maybe even a player version of the obliteration beam?

I think the Incarnate stuff is inline with what you want. Especially since the powers can be color changed.

I'm only for Hero Patron Pools if they come with a permanent, can't be remove for any reason, gold title that says "Statesman's Sidekick" (or whatever hero you choose)

It should be there for all to see, which hero you chose as your big league partner in heroics! And you should wear it proudly, knowing that you worked so close with them to be considered their sidekick!

You'd of course get to use any of the Hero Patron Pools, but you only get one gold title and it'd be permanent.

That would be the AWESOM way to do it.

Except, you don't get such a beauteous golden title from the villainous Patrons. And the individual heroes wouldn't realistically have the time to train thousands of individual heroes on a one-to-one basis, due to all their heroic duties, which is why the Patrons I suggested were along organizational lines. Technically, the original patrons are drawn from organizations as well. (Widows/Fortunata=GW(Soul), Crabs=Mako(Technically breaks this rule), Mu=Scirocco(Mu), Wolf Spiders=Scorpion(Mace))

to: Emperor Justin, sorry that comment wasn't meant at you or the OP but at the post directly above the one you quoted.


to: BrandX

The Patron Arcs grant a badge unique to the Patron in question. in Fact said badges were tied to the pools themselves. That's why initially it was impossible to Respec Patron Pools.

So Hero patron Arcs shouldn't get some spiffy unique title they should get a badge same as the Villain Arcs do.

That's...no.

Saying "Don't play game content if you don't want an extra name floating over your head!" is dumb. If sticking names and titles next to my own were mandatory (as you are proposing) for big missions/arcs, I'd never play them because I don't want "Rule of Three" or "Positron's Ally" next to my name. That's lame. I want to pick something more befitting my character, not have something thrust upon me.

Granting a badge gives players a CHOICE of using it as a title instead of forcing a set title upon them. Choices are always better than mandatory settings. Always.

Granting a badge like the villains gives players the choice of having a title or not, and they still get to experience the content and unlock powers. Denying players the choice of getting new powers or running new missions because they don't want a garish title above their name is silly.

It's be like automatically assigning the "HELPER" title to anyone whose subscribed for more than two years.

"Well if you don't want that title, stop playing at 23 months!"

Obviously that's an extreme and unrealistic example, but it's the same basic premise as what you're proposing which is...you know...not a good idea.

This would be awesome. I have character concepts would love these.

How can you get rid of something that doesn't exist yet?

And I've been stressing choice. Just give me the option not to take it, while still getting to play the content.

EDIT- also, really dreadful title suggestions. I don't want my level 50 +4 Incarnate that's beat the snot out of Recluse, Emperor Cole, Nemesis, Dimensional gods, alien invaders, and elite paramilitary groups to be lugging around "Sidekick."
That's idiotic.

Word. In addition to the problems I've already stated I had with specific heroes, I'll posit(ron) one more: Thematic elasticity. The powers of the Freedom Phalanx were formatted for specific themes, and that's fine. However, not everyone likes the idea of being constrained to the frankly narrow themes that would arise from gaining powers attached to any one single character. Plus, not all the characters are really equal in power, nor do all of them have "teachable abilities". Wanna learn psionics. cool. Wanna learn how to be a ghost? Not happening. (Without large student fatalities, that is.)

Actually, it is more idiotic.
Taking a patron or mentor at the level of the Freedom Phalanx, the most prestigious heroes in game, is a status symbol. You are worth their time. You are good enough to use/learn their power, and when you finish their arc, you're like an equal.

Hell, when you finish the villain patron arc, you hand Recluse his own smashed up helmet.

That's significantly less idiotic than being delegated "sidekick" like Jimmy Olsen or Robin.

And then there's always the blatant, bvious answer to why someone with power would do missions like this: to get more power. Duh.

It's a bad idea.

I'm suggesting the option. If you want a stupid title, you can take it. If you don;t want it, you don't have to take it! You're suggesting the dumb title be mandatory, which boggles my mind.

I'm not against Hero Patrons actually. I just think...

1) People didn't like Villain Patrons being unlocked or tied to the signature characters...now...it's "I want powers like the Villain Patrons, without having to go evil to obtain them"

2) No matter how much people want to say it's not, Hero Patron sounds like Sidekick to me, and I'd like to keep it that way with a Gold Title

3) People love gold titles! Or they wouldnt go out and get them when the Devs are there to pass them around.

4) Whatever you do come up with for Hero Patrons, why not just make them part of the existing Anicillary Pools? Go beyond the five powers! In fact, add more, as my Scrapper still doesn't have a Cold Mastery, or a decent Energy/Body Mastery. Also, tier them out and stop with the need this power requirement first (this make me sad the most)

At this point what you're basically saying is "My interpretation is the most correct and everybody should be forced to accept it."

You're either a troll or completely daft.

Either way, this conversation has turned stupid, so I'll say that organization/group power pools and heroic patrons are awesome, arbitrary gold titles are not, peace out.