Salvage


Arbegla

 

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I have been noticing that I have been getting 2 or more salvage per kill. Is this new or is this a bug. I have an example of one here. You have defeated Champion of War
You gain 36,047 influence.
The Dark Hearts gains 150 prestige.
You received Silver.
You received Hydraulic Piston.


 

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You know, I could have sworn I saw that happen last week, but I thought I imagined it.


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Isn't Champion of War a boss? maybe boss and higher mobs have an additional chance to drop an extra salvage on defeat, thus simulating the market?


 

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Originally Posted by Arbegla View Post
Isn't Champion of War a boss? maybe boss and higher mobs have an additional chance to drop an extra salvage on defeat, thus simulating the market?
No it is any thing seems like here is a minion with the same.
You have defeated Champion of Mourning
You gain 4,540 influence.
The Dark Hearts gains 13 prestige.
You received Energy Weapon.
You received Ceramic Armor Plate.


 

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Odd.. What tier VIP are you? maybe its an added meature, or a double drop rate bug due to getting access to inventions from being a VIP and access via the paragon rewards tiers?


 

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Is this an effect of the Windfall reward? (I am no where near receiving one, so I am not at all sure.)


 

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It is not due to windfall and said account is tier 4, and my other account is getting the same thing even at a higher tier. And no it is not from day job, I have been parking them at base portal for perstiege bonus.


 

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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
You know, I could have sworn I saw that happen last week, but I thought I imagined it.
Same here. Interesting.


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I've noticed the occasional double Salvage reward as well.

I pretty much run +0/+0 or +0/+1. I've used no Windfall Power at all. I've got a feeling it is a part of the increase in the Salvage drop rates w/I 21.

Thank you for the time...


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I also saw two salvage drop from one kill. It was a CoT minion. In fact, it seems that salvage seems to drop more period.


 

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Originally Posted by Tymers_Realm View Post
part of the increase in the Salvage drop rates w/I 21.
The what? I just skimmed the I-21 patch notes looking for any reference to increasing the salvage drop rate and didn't see anything, although my search was not exhaustive. Is there really an announced change in drop rates?


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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
The what? I just skimmed the I-21 patch notes looking for any reference to increasing the salvage drop rate and didn't see anything, although my search was not exhaustive. Is there really an announced change in drop rates?
That is why I am asking here to see if its a bug or patch.


 

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It's a developer evil plot to get you to buy the salvage boost packs from the market.


 

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Not noticed extra salvage drops, but I seem to be getting waaaaay more recipe drops, and decent ones too.


 

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I don't know if it is related but I just got two tips from one kill on my stalker.


 

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I've gotten double salvage drops twice now since I21. Don't have logs for backup, but I'm a VIP with 3 bits of Tier 8 (which shouldn't make a difference because VIP). No Windfall, only Day Job was Large Insp on Mission complete. Both times it was one common and one uncommon salvage. Once was on a mid 20s Brute running First Ward arcs, second was a low 30s Widow running arcs in Nerva.


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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
The what? I just skimmed the I-21 patch notes looking for any reference to increasing the salvage drop rate and didn't see anything, although my search was not exhaustive. Is there really an announced change in drop rates?
It's nothing announced, but why else would the Devs increase the number of Invention Salvage a player can hold as well as store in the Vault? Even running in the Beta, I noticed a slight uptic in the Salvage drop rate. I'm not complaining, mind you.

I just find it interesting that I can get a good amount of Salvage after running a few missions of regular content at times. The only downside is the shear number of the more 'common' of the Common and Uncommon Salvage that is dropping now. I certainly don't attribute the over 16K for sale offers of Computer Viruses on the market right now strictly to a uptic in the drop rate, but it has a part.

Thank you for the time...


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Originally Posted by Tymers_Realm View Post
It's nothing announced, but why else would the Devs increase the number of Invention Salvage a player can hold as well as store in the Vault? Even running in the Beta, I noticed a slight uptic in the Salvage drop rate. I'm not complaining, mind you.

I just find it interesting that I can get a good amount of Salvage after running a few missions of regular content at times. The only downside is the shear number of the more 'common' of the Common and Uncommon Salvage that is dropping now. I certainly don't attribute the over 16K for sale offers of Computer Viruses on the market right now strictly to a uptic in the drop rate, but it has a part.
Time to throw some numbers at this. I spent about an hour shredding random level 51 Carnies, and ran the resulting log through DropStats. The relevant line is:
Code:
Pool       Drop Rate         Range   Drops        Expected    Mobs
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Salvage       10.11%  8.05%-12.49%      76           47-76     752 min. equiv.
It's high, but just within the 95% interval for "normal". I can't tell if this means the drop rate has been raised or not; more data is needed.


 

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Originally Posted by Katie V View Post
It's high, but just within the 95% interval for "normal". I can't tell if this means the drop rate has been raised or not; more data is needed.
I have no data, but anecdotally, the drop rate for salvage feels higher than it used to. By today my level 23 SJ/EA had a ton of tier two salvage -- filled my personal vault with 50 pieces, after using a dozen pieces to craft IOs. That's only two or three levels worth of salvage because you only get tier two starting at 20, I believe, and it's split with tier one drops. That is running about 50-50 at x1 and x2 solo.

I noticed the same thing with a brute that's now 35. With careful shepherding I used to be able to satisfy all my tier 2 salvage needs. Now I have far more than needed for my personal use and have sold tons of it.

And I too have seen double salvage drops on low level characters, so it's dropping from LTs and minions.


 

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The rate may or may not have been increased but I am 100% sure that we are getting two drops for one kill some times. I don't know if that is a bug or a feature though.


 

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More shredded Carnies, with an interesting pattern:

Code:
Pool       Drop Rate         Range   Drops        Expected    Mobs
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Salvage        9.61%  8.21%-11.16%     154         108-151   1,603 min. equiv.
  minion      10.96%  8.91%-13.30%      90           51-82     821 minions
  lieutenant  11.85%  8.35%-16.16%      34           21-42     287 LTs & snprs
  boss        23.44% 16.41%-31.74%      30           23-43     128 bosses & EBs
When you're getting double drops, is it from all enemies, or just minions?


 

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Originally Posted by Katie V View Post
More shredded Carnies, with an interesting pattern:

Code:
Pool       Drop Rate         Range   Drops        Expected    Mobs
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Salvage        9.61%  8.21%-11.16%     154         108-151   1,603 min. equiv.
  minion      10.96%  8.91%-13.30%      90           51-82     821 minions
  lieutenant  11.85%  8.35%-16.16%      34           21-42     287 LTs & snprs
  boss        23.44% 16.41%-31.74%      30           23-43     128 bosses & EBs
When you're getting double drops, is it from all enemies, or just minions?
I can't be sure it is always minions but the instances where I know I saw it happen were all minions.