Haven't Accolade Hunted On Hero side in a long time... Questions
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Posted on: 2011-09-23 13:18 in Badges and Gladiators
Faatham, Sara Moore and Quaterfield's TFs have Nemesis in them. I don't think you'll get the Fake Nem badge in one run of either of them.
Fake Nem are generally easy to find in mid-northern PI ranging from mid40s-50. There's also a couple of island in Fire Base Zulu where there are a lot of them (also a lot of Paragon Protectors).
As for 2 and 3... for Illusionist badge, I'm pretty sure it was changed so that Phantasms and Dark Servants count for the badge. So effectively you can get 5 pts of credit toward the badge with each MI (or more if you let them respawn the pets).
For Sorcerers, no clue. I always just hunted in Talos and Steel for them.
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Well didn't realize on the Illusionist not only that changed you mentioned its now 100? I would of sworn it was like 600 before...
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I have a reliable report that less than half of the Fakes in PI are actually counting towards the badge. More like 1 in 12.|
Originally Posted by SolarSentai
Fake Nem are generally easy to find in mid-northern PI ranging from mid40s-50.
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I frequently choose Maxwell Christopher's (40-45) missions for Fakes.
The Illusionist was dropped to 100 and Phantasms and Dark Servants were added to the list of Master Illusionist pets that count.
Sorcerers, they frequent the boardwalk area of Talos (DA side of the main island).
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Ok what you said about the Fakes just now made me wonder. I logged in today and saw I had like 5/100 on my credit. I would of sworn last night I killed at least 10-15 of them while in PI.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I have a reliable report that less than half of the Fakes in PI are actually counting towards the badge. More like 1 in 12.
I frequently choose Maxwell Christopher's (40-45) missions for Fakes. The Illusionist was dropped to 100 and Phantasms and Dark Servants were added to the list of Master Illusionist pets that count. Sorcerers, they frequent the boardwalk area of Talos (DA side of the main island). |
So its just PI not counting or what?
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I know my Fake Nem farm (Max Christopher, Nemesis Rex arc, I got it at level 44, and kept it to 50, so I am hunting greys |
Originally Posted by Ultimus
Ok what you said about the Fakes just now made me wonder. I logged in today and saw I had like 5/100 on my credit. I would of sworn last night I killed at least 10-15 of them while in PI.
So its just PI not counting or what? |
) is working, and I know a lot of Fakes in PI are not.
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A good place for those is in IP on the left side of the map all the way to the war walls. Just go straight to the west of the tram until you hit the war wall then go south until you stop seeing family and start seeing tsao. There is a long stretch covered with them. Its the best place Ive found so far to hunt sorcerers.|
Originally Posted by SolarSentai
For Sorcerers, no clue. I always just hunted in Talos and Steel for them.
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For the illusion badge I run harvey malor until I get it. His mission are 90% carnies.
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Well since PI isn't working I was looking for that arc and realized its not an Ouroboros arc. Anywhere else you suggest?
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I know my Fake Nem farm (Max Christopher, Nemesis Rex arc, I got it at level 44, and kept it to 50, so I am hunting greys
) is working, and I know a lot of Fakes in PI are not. |
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FBZ or the RWZ missions.|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
Well since PI isn't working I was looking for that arc and realized its not an Ouroboros arc. Anywhere else you suggest?
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http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Unveiler_Badge
By the way, this is the mission I have:
Stop the battle between Nemesis Army factions and make sure no innocents get hurt
Basically get a character to 40-45, work towards that mission, then level to 50.
Everything will be -5 (or more) to you. Set the mission to +1/x8 for max Fake Nemesis and Nemesis Rex spawns. Don't rescue the innocents and you'll be able to use it on any future character level 1-50 (SSK to 49).
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Ok I want to follow up on the Fake Nemesis thing. I think there is a bug with ALL of them. I am doing a Sara Moore Task Force and half these Fake Nemesis are not counting. I am even watching my badge meter and only getting credit for certain ones.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
FBZ or the RWZ missions.
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Unveiler_Badge By the way, this is the mission I have: Stop the battle between Nemesis Army factions and make sure no innocents get hurt Basically get a character to 40-45, work towards that mission, then level to 50. Everything will be -5 (or more) to you. Set the mission to +1/x8 for max Fake Nemesis and Nemesis Rex spawns. Don't rescue the innocents and you'll be able to use it on any future character level 1-50 (SSK to 49). |
For Unveiler give the "Horror of War" arc a shot.
In the first two missions, a number of Fake Nemesis = to the number of people on the team will spawn. If you set it to x8 you get 8 of them in a single group after you grab the hostage. You can also set them to downgrade boss -> LT and they still count.
In the first mission the fakes will spawn after you grab the hostage.
In the second mission they will all be standing in the final room of the map.
There will be a few more guaranteed spawns of 1 or 2 after that too, along with the usual random.
The Dark Watcher Arc.
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Huh.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I know my Fake Nem farm (Max Christopher, Nemesis Rex arc, I got it at level 44, and kept it to 50, so I am hunting greys
) is working, and I know a lot of Fakes in PI are not. |
Why would some Fake Nemesis bosses work, and others not? That makes no sense. I hear you, SG, it just doesn't jive. I might actually give this a go later, just to see for myself...
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Because some of them might be the type/level from the infamous Family Farm that had all awards shut off (including badge credit). I suspect the reason why the nemesis farm I'm using still works is that it isn't easy to get, has ZERO XP/INF/Salvage Drops, and is using lower level Fakes that were not hit with the nerf stick thanks to farmers.|
Originally Posted by Turgenev
Huh.
Why would some Fake Nemesis bosses work, and others not? That makes no sense. I hear you, SG, it just doesn't jive. I might actually give this a go later, just to see for myself... |
Think of it this way:
- Fake Nemesis - level 40-45: Count? Probably, as they were not involved in the family farm.
- Fake Nemesis Rex - level 40-45: Count? Probably, as they were not involved in the family farm.
- Fake Nemesis - level 46-50: Count? Maybe, as they were involved in the family farm.
- Fake Nemesis Rex - level 46-50: Count? Maybe, as they were possibly involved in the family farm. (I can't remember).
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OK, so I went and tested this out on a lvl 50 who did not have Unveiler yet. Killed 30 Fakes in PI and then 30 more in FBZ. PI Fakes ran from levels 41 thru 49; FBZ from 40 to 44. I used Hero Stats to keep track of how many I killed; I was a solo blaster, so I was the only one getting kill credits. The results:
PI
Killed: 30
Credited for killing: 12
FBZ
Killed: 30
Credit for killing: 30
So, I agree with Snow Globe: any Fakes 46+ for lvl 50s are not receiving badge credit. I wished that I had kept track of what I was actually defeating in PI, but will need to get another toon for that.
I find your lack of signature disturbing.
My favorite spot for Fake Nems, blueside, is the Shadow Shard. Firebase Zulu zone, Point Sierra's island. There are usually 3-4 spawns of nemesis there at a time, with up to TWO fakes per group. Just run in circles and harvest.
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Actually, I just checked, it might be isolated to just PI and street hunting there.
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Originally Posted by Frost Warden
OK, so I went and tested this out on a lvl 50 who did not have Unveiler yet. Killed 30 Fakes in PI and then 30 more in FBZ. PI Fakes ran from levels 41 thru 49; FBZ from 40 to 44. I used Hero Stats to keep track of how many I killed; I was a solo blaster, so I was the only one getting kill credits. The results:
PI Killed: 30 Credited for killing: 12 FBZ Killed: 30 Credit for killing: 30 So, I agree with Snow Globe: any Fakes 46+ for lvl 50s are not receiving badge credit. I wished that I had kept track of what I was actually defeating in PI, but will need to get another toon for that. |
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No as I said in my post earlier I did a Sara Moore TF and half those Fake Nemesis in door missions were not counting either and it was a level 50 TF. Also I watched when I hunted in PI. I sometimes had a spawn with two Fake Nemesis in one spawn. Sometimes one would give credit and the other would not. Thus, it cannot be level related if two from the same spawn and one in the spawn gives credit and the other does not. |
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Actually, I just checked, it might be isolated to just PI and street hunting there.
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Personally I think its related to the shield they do at low health.
Go to FBZ Sierra/Xray for Fakes. Very easy to get the badge solo.
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Yeah, I found a level 35 Fake that didn't give credit in Crey's Folly. There does seem that there is something up with Fakes all over.
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Originally Posted by Ultimus
No as I said in my post earlier I did a Sara Moore TF and half those Fake Nemesis in door missions were not counting either and it was a level 50 TF. Also I watched when I hunted in PI. I sometimes had a spawn with two Fake Nemesis in one spawn. Sometimes one would give credit and the other would not. Thus, it cannot be level related if two from the same spawn and one in the spawn gives credit and the other does not.
Personally I think its related to the shield they do at low health. |
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That should be easy enough to test. Stack holds, then kill while mezzed, then check badge count. Repeat with no hard holds. Compare.
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Originally Posted by Ultimus
No as I said in my post earlier I did a Sara Moore TF and half those Fake Nemesis in door missions were not counting either and it was a level 50 TF. Also I watched when I hunted in PI. I sometimes had a spawn with two Fake Nemesis in one spawn. Sometimes one would give credit and the other would not. Thus, it cannot be level related if two from the same spawn and one in the spawn gives credit and the other does not.
Personally I think its related to the shield they do at low health. |
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PFF doesn't seem to be part of the pattern I've observed. as to the farm/nerf theory, I'm using a lvl 44 toon and fighting lvl 41-46 Fakes, so not sure that fits?
I've found no pattern whatsoever. I have the inconsistency in mish, in PI, with PFF used, without PFF. I will go give FBZ a try.
bugged it for whatever that's worth
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I did this just a couple of days ago on my Kat/Dark. Went pretty quick. Think it took me 2 hours, but I was also killing overseers for my Rularuu katana and paragon protectors for their badge, since there were a lot of them there too.
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Originally Posted by Seschat
My favorite spot for Fake Nems, blueside, is the Shadow Shard. Firebase Zulu zone, Point Sierra's island. There are usually 3-4 spawns of nemesis there at a time, with up to TWO fakes per group. Just run in circles and harvest.
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Yeah! Ditto that - I hope all you who have experienced Fake counter problems have bugged it as the more that 'complain' (for want of a better word) the more likier it is to get Fixed pronto.
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Originally Posted by Tyche
PFF doesn't seem to be part of the pattern I've observed. as to the farm/nerf theory, I'm using a lvl 44 toon and fighting lvl 41-46 Fakes, so not sure that fits?
I've found no pattern whatsoever. I have the inconsistency in mish, in PI, with PFF used, without PFF. I will go give FBZ a try. bugged it for whatever that's worth |
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Yes, I have.
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Originally Posted by Warbaby
I hope all you who have experienced Fake counter problems have bugged it
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I wondered about this. A week or so ago I was looking through my badges and noticed this one was close to completion. I figured I could street hunt in PI to finish it off. I think I only needed 10 more when I started so after killing almost a dozen I checked my badge status and still needed a few more. I just through I had been doing something wrong. I watched more closely but I wasn't being very scientific about it. I think I was getting credit for a little under half. I know I was stuck at 99/100 for 3 kills.
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Trying to get my accolade powers for Heroes and haven't done it since like Issue 4 so I've forgotten a few things. While I am aware of some places to go for enemies, I much prefer to do the badge in a TF if possible. (I see it as killing two birds with one stone) Also with the new Super Sidekick System, some of my old tricks won't work. (IE having a mission and inviting a bunch of high levels to wipe it out for badges)
Here are my questions:
1) Is there a TF that has a lot of Fake Nemesis? I want to say a Shadowshard TF does but I don't remember. I know where to find them but would prefer a TF.
2) For Illusionist Badge, is there any easy way to get this? Preferably in a TF? (I know Villainside has a SF that has them)
3) For the Tsoo Sorcerer Badge, does this now include the Chi Masters? Also is there a TF that has a lot of them? If not, what is the best way to acquire this one?
Thanks.