Name Changes and RMT

Is it a violation of the EULA regarding RMT for someone else to send me money with which I can buy a name change token, then give them access to the name I just vacated?

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IANAL, but probably not as you're not buying or selling ingame stuff (per se).

I'd say this falls outside the RMT issues that nobody wants. You are undertaking a transaction outside the game. The use to which you put that money is your business and not even the business of the person sending it to you. (It's a "gentleman's agreement", in essence.)

The fact that you are vacating a name in no way guarantees that the person sending you the money will be fast enough to claim it.

You and they are not getting any advantage over anyone else in the game for the agreed transaction. You are not making a profit from the transaction.

It would be just the same as a friend giving you some cash for the same thing: there is no upside or downside to anyone involved, you, the payer, or NCsoft.

I'd say you're good to go.

I'd say that this should be okay, but you may want to check with one of the community reps before you undertake this venture. I would think that they'd be okay with it, even if it's a bit of grey area for the EULA. The only thing I think they might have a problem with is if they see people doing this a lot (i.e., grabbing a bunch of names on various servers, and then offering to sell them to make money).

Yep, that would fall under making a profit from the transaction, and would be a no-no, I suspect. It would probably not matter if you put the name up on eBay, though.

At the end of the day, if all parties are dealing in good faith (ie, you're not extorting money by holding the name to ransom), it will probably be okay.

The question to ask yourself is this: If the player who wants the name were to petition you because you demanded more money than the cost of a name change, would you be confident that the petition would not cause you to have some form of sanction levied by NCsoft?

The third party is offering to front the money for a name change token. How is that making a profit? They are not paying the player for a name.

It's not. The point Aett_Thorn and I were making is the more general circumstance.

In this specific case, if the OP is merely being given the precise amount required to perform a change of name, then it is an equitable transaction for all parties involved: the OP changes his character name, essentially for free, and the payer gets the name they want. This is no different than reserving a name for a friend, then deleting the toon to free up the name. The OP has not lost out, and the payer gets the name they want, and NCsoft frankly wouldn't care.

Even in the general case of someone "name-camping" and requesting the cost of a name change token to free it up, NCsoft probably won't care, unless the "camper" can be proven to be making a profit (and NCsoft can check if they simply delete the toon or actually rename it).

If, however, the "camper" demands more than the payer is prepared to pay, or is found to be doing the same thing to a number of desired names, then that falls under the general heading of griefing, and is petitionable as such. How NCsoft choose to handle that is their own business.

The safest way to deal with this matter would be for the OP and the payer to request what amounts to a favour from NCsoft (if they are willing to do so), by asking for them to monitor the logs for the change of name, to ensure that the transaction was indeed a "gentleman's agreement" and followed through as such.

I believe that it should be unnecessary, as it appears that all parties are acting in good faith in this matter.

I failed to notice Aett and Shadowe were off on a tangent. i agrre with them. If the 3rd party is offering more money than what the rename token is worth then it falls into a grey area.

I don't see how it's a jerk move. Say I want to give someone the name.

Either I burn a rename token (or two transfers), or I delete a character I might still want to play.

Seems reasonable to say "I'd be happy to do this, but I don't want to pay extra cash to do it."

That's not name-camping, then. Name-camping is the case that Aett suggested, whereby someone takes a name they know someone else wants, and requests monetary compensation to free it up. If they buy a rename with the money, all is well and good, but if they just delete the character... And do the same thing to 47 others on the same server... That's a jerk move.

Ahh.

Yeah, okay, that is indeed a jerk move.

p.s.: I take it I shouldn't go around registering characters named "Zwillinger" then?

In WoW, I once encountered someone who would invite people to teams, then offer to give them lead for 10 gold.

... That said, I sorta want to get "Dr. Zwyllinger", who would be some kind of villainous sort who goes around threatening people with unscheduled downtime *in character*.

This might be too meta. I'm still sort of half worried that Doctor Freemium will get reported for "exploits" for being on the VIP server.

To my knowledge the EULA for CoX in no way affects the the EULA for a disassociated escrow facility. It would be a matter of trust for you alone.