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Because ***hats see, ***hats do I guess? AE should now stand for A**hat Entertainment.|
Originally Posted by Zortel
Considering people have had their stories one starred because they're 'poor farms', this is running counter to that. If people downvote story arcs for being 'poor farms', why not downvote farm arcs for being poor stories?
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At least its nice to see that the Authors and Farmers both share a common behavioral trait.
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True this.
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Originally Posted by Crysys
Because ***hats see, ***hats do I guess? AE should now stand for A**hat Entertainment.
At least its nice to see that the Authors and Farmers both share a common behavioral trait. |
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Uh, yeah, farmers are already doing that. That's kind of the point of this thread.
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Originally Posted by Zortel
Considering people have had their stories one starred because they're 'poor farms', this is running counter to that. If people downvote story arcs for being 'poor farms', why not downvote farm arcs for being poor stories?
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Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World
Well, apparently my trollish behaviour has got some people thinking about how to write more entertaining farms. Not sure if that's a good thing but it can't be worse than what we have. I'm too bored with farm missions to do more reviews for now anyway.
Winner of Players' Choice Best Villainous Arc 2010: Fear and Loathing on Striga; ID #350522
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Any sort of improvement in quality is always a good thing. You should be proud!
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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
Well, apparently my trollish behaviour has got some people thinking about how to write more entertaining farms. Not sure if that's a good thing but it can't be worse than what we have. I'm too bored with farm missions to do more reviews for now anyway.
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Astoria in D Minor, a horror arc. Arc ID: 41565 - The Beating Heart of Astoria: A Play in Five Acts. Arc ID: 170547 - Ignition of the Machine, a story with robots. Arc ID: 318983
Captain Skylark Shadowfancy and the Tomorrownauts of Today. Arc ID: 337333 - Signal:Noise, where is everybody? Arc ID: 341194
@The Cheshire Cat - Isn't it enough to know I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
12 second horror stories - a writing experiment.
Captain Skylark Shadowfancy and the Tomorrownauts of Today. Arc ID: 337333 - Signal:Noise, where is everybody? Arc ID: 341194
@The Cheshire Cat - Isn't it enough to know I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
12 second horror stories - a writing experiment.
Heya folks. I came to this section trying to figure out something about the recipe drops and this thread caught my eye.
I left the game a long time ago, and returned about 15 months ago. I feel like I'm a bit behind, so I do use AE fire farms to sort of help me catch up.
Regardless, I could be wrong, I very often am.
If someone who makes an arc gets a 5 star rating and someone else comes along and gives them 1, I would think that would average out to a 3.
Given the possibility that a grudge holder could select the arc they want to bash repeatedly - and more easily do this than someone who actually goes through an arc that may have several missions, I would think that the devs could come up with something to discount statistical outliers. Perhaps broadening the rating from 5 to 10, or maybe even a 100. That way, if someone's trying to bash something, the formula could pick up on it, and account for it. (Take x number of high scores and x number of low scores and discount them, then average)
Just an idea.
/begin digress
I've seen some pretty bad farms, and a couple that were pretty good - as far as making me chuckle while doing them.
Like PW, I do count off for incorrect spelling.
However, the idea of me actually sending comments back, well, I'll only take the time to do that if they actually want feedback.
I do applaud the work many of you AE authors do, and wish the devs would allow us to do more of them with the standard in-game rewards.
As for the farmers, a lot of the work I see is pretty ingenious in concept, if not in story telling. As for the non-farmers, I have done many of the dev's choice ones and found many of them to be better than the trite things that CoH comes up with. Others are just not for me.
/end digress
Okay, I'm done interrupting, have a nice day.
"Most people that have no idea what they are doing have no idea that they don't know what they are doing." - John Cleese
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Yes, but since 5-star ratings are the only ratings that count for things like getting into the Hall of Fame or showing up on the search lists, giving someone any other rating than 5 stars basically means that they don't want that arc to be played. Playing an arc and not rating it at all is better for the arc's average score than playing an arc and rating it 4 stars or lower, which seems wrong to me but that's how it goes.
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
Regardless, I could be wrong, I very often am.
If someone who makes an arc gets a 5 star rating and someone else comes along and gives them 1, I would think that would average out to a 3. |
Winner of Players' Choice Best Villainous Arc 2010: Fear and Loathing on Striga; ID #350522
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5 hours? Think more like an hour and half. Maybe 2. |
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
So again...if getting to level 50 in five hours is within the acceptable time/reward ratio, then why not sell insta-50 buttons?
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But, times vary.
"Most people that have no idea what they are doing have no idea that they don't know what they are doing." - John Cleese
@Ukase
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So....what's this all about then? You want to have 5 stars? and you want this because...you want people to see it? |
Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
Yes, but since 5-star ratings are the only ratings that count for things like getting into the Hall of Fame or showing up on the search lists, giving someone any other rating than 5 stars basically means that they don't want that arc to be played. Playing an arc and not rating it at all is better for the arc's average score than playing an arc and rating it 4 stars or lower, which seems wrong to me but that's how it goes.
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Now, I could be wrong,( I often am), but ratings are purely subjective. Some folks might rate something super high, just because there was a reference to their favorite football team.
The only thing to gain by having your arc more visible is for more people to play it - and thus risk someone having no idea how 4 stars would impact your rating - other than it just averaging out to 4.6 or something. So, let's say yours is always listed first - more people play it -- besides the badge for making the hall of fame, (I seem to recall their being one for that), the only thing you can gain is tickets. Tickets are easy, as has been documented in this thread.
999 people play your arc and give it 5 stars.
999*5= 4995 tickets. You can earn that many very fast, seems to me, that'd be the easier way to go. IF that's what you're actually after.
Now, if you're creating the arcs for fun, could that fun be enough reward?
The world is very diverse and many of us don't even think about how a rating will impact your arc, or anyone elses arc. Most just rate it 5 without thinking. Others (mainly the folks that create arcs, I suspect) actually look for dialogue and check clues, scrutinize costumes and yes, like me, check spelling and grammar.
I do understand being frustrated by someone rating your arc low because they are petty and vindictive. I get that, and I'd say that feeling is justified.
The rough part is, well, I don't think there's much to be done about that.
"Most people that have no idea what they are doing have no idea that they don't know what they are doing." - John Cleese
@Ukase
Not my arc (obviously 
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Caveat: it's one of those old all-boss farms, so your XP gains will be negligible.
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
Now, if you're creating the arcs for fun, could that fun be enough reward?
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I have a lot of fun pondering my what ifs when I'm composing the arc. I like to think - perhaps in my vanity - that others will also enjoy my ideas and I enjoy that sharing. But having an arc sit in 4-star hell means never getting plays.
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How about 20-30 minutes? The real exploits were that good.
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Originally Posted by Venture
If you're getting to 50 in five hours, doing it in 2, or even 1, is really not that big of a difference.
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
So....what's this all about then? You want to have 5 stars? and you want this because...you want people to see it?
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999 people play your arc and give it 5 stars. 999*5= 4995 tickets. You can earn that many very fast, seems to me, that'd be the easier way to go. IF that's what you're actually after. |
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I do understand being frustrated by someone rating your arc low because they are petty and vindictive. I get that, and I'd say that feeling is justified. The rough part is, well, I don't think there's much to be done about that. |
Winner of Players' Choice Best Villainous Arc 2010: Fear and Loathing on Striga; ID #350522
Reviewing Reviewing "Farm Reviews" by FredrikSvanberg By Nihili.
Personally, I found this review bald and pedantic.
He was butthurt by someone looking for a farm so decided to bend over every farmer he could (til he got bored).
Pretending that it had something to do with improving the rating system (which is bad) is just pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Aquila_NA
He was butthurt by someone looking for a farm so decided to bend over every farmer he could (til he got bored).
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Winner of Players' Choice Best Villainous Arc 2010: Fear and Loathing on Striga; ID #350522
I don't think the OP was "butthurt" (whatever that means); I think this was meant to be yet another "AE Farmers Suck" kind of thread. He even mentioned in the OP first post that he no longer feared retaliatory 1-stars since he no longer had any top-rated arcs left.
Unfortunately, looking at the timing of this thread and the "Can I cry now" one, I'm pretty sure the net result of this thread was to get a bunch of his peers 1-starred.
Ah, I misunderstood. My apologies.
Yes Crysys, I think you're right. What I don't quite get is if he wants so badly to get back to 5-stars why isn't he even more worried about future ***-bombing?
As to butthurt, this is what I meant:
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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
I don't see a "rash of 1-stars" since the game won't tell us when we've been 1 or 2-starred if we're not logged in when it happens. I noticed because I happened to look at my published arcs and found that "Fear And Loathing On Striga" (play it now, 100 million inf to the vote that brings it back up to 5 stars) had been demoted to 4-star oblivion to make room for another farm on page 3.
I don't see negative comments either because the worthless asswipes who do these kinds of things are too lazy and cowardly to troll properly and prefer to hide behind the safety of anonymous downvoting. If someone actually had sent me a comment with their 1-star ratings I might have taken them serious. ---snip--- |
....just sayin
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