A Clockwork and/or PPD EAT would be worth looking at. Perhaps a Resistance EAT could be worked out too. I do like the thought of a Hamidon/DE "Infected" EAT, there could be some interesting visuals, vine wrapped costumes ect.
Hamidon powers could perhaps include things like:
1. "Summon Swarms", those bee like DE swarming things.
2."Pollen Cloud" a choking mass AoE attack/debuff.
3. "Tree of Life" a health buff like the Triage Beacon.
Additionally, there are many thorn & vine powers from other ATs and power sets that could be rolled into the Hamidon set fairly straight across. . .
The more I think about it the more I like this idea!
I would be in favor of a powerset based around the backpacks that the heavy and elite IDF troopers tend to get. Those things look wicked.
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There was a thread some months ago that fully detail a DE EAT as the Praetorian EAT. Looked fun to play.
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Plantoid Plantoids are the result of an humanoid being infected by an odd spore of unknown origin. Plantoids have a very good resistance vs all type of damage but fire (their very true weakness) and toxic attacks that help them to defend themselves. They also can shapeshift into 2 other forms. Also, plantoids can take advantage from their teammates' origins, empowering themself. They have no access to Leaping, Flight nor Epic Power Pools. Faction Hero / Villain Origin Mutation Primary Wild Empathy (Defense) Secondary Wild Toxicity (Offense) HP Low Damage Low Weakness Fire Inherent · Force of nature: Due to your empathic nature, you are able to increase your own power depending on the true nature of your teammates. Origin Buff Magic +Minor Protection vs Control effects Natural +Minor Damage Resistance Mutation +Minor Defense Science +Recharge, +Speed Technology +Damage Wild Empathy Plantoids can focus into healing, regenerative and resistance powers for themselves and their teammates. Power Lvl Type Effect Bark Skin 1 Auto Self: +Resistance (Smash, Lethal) Elemental Resistance 1 Toggle Self: +Resistance (Fire, Cold, Toxic) Regrowth 2 Click Self: Heal, +Resistance (Toxic) Tree of Life 6 Toggle Self: Shapeshift, No defense, +Endurance Recovery Featherweight 6 Toggle Self: Fly, +Defense (All) Rooted 8 Toogle Self: +Resistance (Knockback, Debuff), -Speed, +Regeneration Photosynthesis 12 Click Self: +Max Health, +Recovery Thorny Armour 12 Toggle PBAoE: Minor Damage (Lethal), Foe: -Speed, -Recharge Strengthen 18 Toggle Self: +Resistance (Smash, Lethal) Group Featherweight 18 Toggle Team: Fly, -Accuracy Absorption 26 Toggle Self: +Resistance (Energy, Negative Energy) Swarm 26 Summon Foe: -Recharge, DoT (Smash) Aged Colossus 32 Toggle Self: +Res (All but Psi), -Speed, -Rech, -Dam, Untoggle Armors Rebirth 32 Click Self: Resurrect Absorption You become resistant to energy and negative energy damage. Type Toggle Recharge Moderate Effects Self: +Resistance (Energy, Negative Energy) Aged Colossus You recall the power of the ancient, colosal trees to empower yourself and become an unstoppable force of nature. Type Toggle Recharge Slow Effects Self: +Resistance (All but Psionics), -Speed, -Recharge, -Damage, Untoggle Armors Bark Skin As result of the mutation, Plantoids' skin becomes harder, protecting them from being hurt. This is an auto power that is always on and costs no endurance. Type Auto Effects Self: +Resistance (Smash, Lethal) Elemental Resistance You have manage to control your body to endure the extreme temperatures like some plants and fungus. Type Toggle Recharge Moderate Effects Self: +Resistance (Fire, Cold, Toxic) Featherweight All plantoids can achieve to hover, like some seeds, after great training. This alows you to avoid better attacks but reduces a lot your flight speed due to you are very focused on the task. Type Toggle Recharge Fast Effects Self: Fly, +Defense (All) Group Featherweight Liberating some spores you can endow your nearby teammates with Flight. Be mindful! Your friends will fall if you run out of endurance or if they travel too far away from you. Group FeatherWeight travel speed is slower than Fly. Flying heroes suffer from reduced accuracy. Type Toggle Recharge Very fast Effects Team: Fly, -Accuracy Photosynthesis Plantoids can tap light energy to increase their health. Type Click Recharge Very long Effects Self: +Max Health, +Recovery Rebirth Like a new seed from an old tree, you rebirth from your fallen body with about half of your Hit Points and Endurance. Type Click Recharge Very long Effects Self: Resurrect Regrowth You can now heal your wounds quickly. Type Click Recharge Long Effects Self: Heal, +Resistance (Toxic) Rooted While this power is active, you root in the ground and draw forth its power to become resistant to Knockback, and increase your Hit Point Regeneration rate. You must remain in close contact with the ground, so you will move extremely slow and you cannot activate Fly, Sprint or Super Speed powers while this power is active. Rooted also grants you resistance to Defense DeBuffs. Type Toggle Recharge Moderate Effects Self: +Resistance (Knockback, Debuff), -Speed, +Regeneration Strengthen You can strengthen your skin to become more resistant to damage. Type Toggle Recharge Fast Effects Self: +Resistance (Smash, Lethal) Swarm They are highly resistant to smashing and lethal attacks, but these flying hordes don't fare well when confronted with fire or energy based assaults. Poison from the Swarm's sting can slow a target. Repeated stings can have a paralyzing effect. Type Summon: Swarm Recharge Very long Effects Foe: -Recharge, DoT (Smash) Thorny Armour Some Plantoids can cover their body with thorns that will shoot in all directions. These thorns do minor damage, but can poison all foes in close range. Spine poison slows affected foes. Type Toggle Recharge Long Effects PBAoE: Minor Damage (Lethal), Foe: -Speed, -Recharge Tree of Life Plantoids can adapt to all fields like true plants. This weak, slim form grant access to some healing powers that can only be used while in this form. You will not be able to use any other powers while in Tree of Life Form. Tree of Life has improved Endurance Recovery, but has no defense. Type Toggle Recharge Instant Effects Self: Shapeshift, No defense, +Endurance Recovery · Tranquility Tranquility restores some hit points to you and all nearby heroes. Tranquility is not as potent as Healing Fruit, but can heal multiple targets at once. Type Click Recharge Moderate Effects PBAoE: Heal · Healing Fruit Heals a single targeted ally. You cannot use this power to heal yourself. Type Click Recharge Long Effects Ally: Heal · Rejuvenation Rejuvenate one target ally, increasing his regeneration and endurance recovery rates Type Click Recharge Long Effects Ally: +Regeneration, + Recovery · Elixir of Life Pouring your healing sap over an ally, you will be able to resurrect him with full hit points and endurance. Type Click Recharge Very long Effects Ally: Resurrection, Special Wild Toxicity Plantoids can use their bodies like natural weapons throwing thorns and toxic sustances at their enemies. Power Lvl Type Effect Thorny Darts 1 Ranged Minor Damage (Lethal), DoT (Toxic) Venomous Spit 2 Ranged DoT (Toxic) Skewer 4 Melee Moderate Damage (Lethal) Spur 10 Ranged Moderate Damage (Lethal) Fling Thorns 14 Ranged (Cone) Moderate Damage (Lethal), DoT (Toxic) Thorn Burst 16 Melee (PBAoE) Moderate Damage (Lethal), -Defense Vicious Fungus 20 Toggle Self: Shapeshift, +Minor Status Protection, +Jump Suffocating Spores 22 Ranged DoT (Toxic), Hold Thorn Blast 24 Ranged (Cone) Moderate Damage (Lethal), Knockdown Thorntrops 28 Ranged (AoE) Minor DoT (Lethal), -Speed Ripper 35 Melee High Damage (Lethal), DoT (Toxic), -Defense, KB Thorn Barrage 38 Close (Cone) High Damage (Lethal), DoT (Toxic), -Defense Fling Thorns You can throw dozens of Thorns in a wide cone in front of you, impaling foes caught within the area. These Thorns deals moderate damage, and poisons any targets it hits. Thorn poison deals additional toxic damage. Type Ranged (Cone) Recharge Slow Effects Moderate Damage (Lethal), DoT (Toxic) Ripper You can unleash a spectacular slashing maneuver that attacks a single enemy. Ripper deals massive damage and poisons him. It can even knock foes down. Thorn poison deals additional toxic damage and can reduce your foes defense. Type Melee Recharge Slow Effects High Damage (Lethal), DoT (Toxic), -Defense, Knockback Skewer You lunge forward with this melee attack and Skewer your foe with the large thorn on your arm, doing moderate damage. Type Melee Recharge Moderate Effects Moderate Damage (Lethal) Spur Throws a single thorn at an enemy target, doing moderate damage. Type Ranged Recharge Slow Effects Moderate Damage (Lethal) Suffocating Spores You can infect your foes with poison spores, leaving them paralyzed and taking Toxic damage over time. Type Ranged Recharge Slow Effects DoT (Toxic), Hold Thorn Barrage A short range, cone, but devastating attack. Thorn Barrage unleashes your Thorns at high velocity causing severe damage at close range. Although these Thorns only travel a short distance, their impact can knock most foes on their back. Thorn poison deals additional toxic damage and can reduce your foes defense. Type Close (Cone) Recharge Long Effects High Damage (Lethal), DoT (Toxic), -Defense Thorn Blast You can throw a bunch of thorns in a narrow cone arc and impale a group of foes. Impaled foes may be knocked down Type Ranged (Cone) Recharge Slow Effects Moderate Damage (Lethal), Knockdown Thorn Burst You can explode dozens of Thorns in all directions around you. These Thorns only travel a short distance, but they can deal moderate damage and poison any target close to you. Toxic damage from the thorns can reduce the Defense of affected foes. Type Melee (PBAoE) Recharge Slow Effects Moderate Damage (Lethal), -Defense Thorny Darts Hurls small Thorny Darts at your foes. Thorny Darts deal minor damage. Poison from the Darts deals additional toxic damage. Type Ranged Recharge Fast Effects Minor Damage (Lethal), DoT (Toxic) Thorntrops You fling dozens of Thorns into the ground at a targeted location. The small Thorns pepper the ground over a large area. Any enemy that pass over the Thorntrops will be forced to move at a slower rate. They will also take some trivial lethal damage over time. Type Ranged (AoE) Recharge Slow Effects Minor DoT (Lethal), -Speed Venomous Spit You spit a lob of poisonous saliva. Type Ranged Recharge Moderate Effects DoT(Toxic) Vicious Fungus Plantoids can shapeshift into disturbing, mesmerizing mushroom-like being. This odd, twisted form grant access to some control powers that can only be used while in this form. You will not be able to use any other powers while in Vicious Funfus Form. Vicious Funfus has improved Status Protection, as well as some increased damage and jump lenght. Type Toggle Recharge Instant Effects Self: Shapeshift, +Minor Status Protection, +Jump · Strangler: Ranged Holds a distant foe by strangling him with massive root-like vines. The target is held helpless, while he is slowly crushed by the vines. Type Ranged Recharge Moderate Effects Moderate DoT (Smash), Hold · Roots Immobilizes your target by entangling their feet in a twisted mass of thorny roots. The roots do smashing and lethal damage to the target over time. More resilient foes may require multiple applications to Immobilize. Roots can immobilize flying targets, if they are near the ground when attacked. Type Ranged Recharge Fast Effects Moderate DoT (Smash), Immobilize · Sleep Spores You hurl a large fungi pod at your foes. This pod is full of Spores that burst on impact, engulfing the target and all those around him. All affected targets may succumb to the narcotic effect of the Spores and will fall asleep. The targets will remain asleep for some time, but will awaken if attacked. Type Ranged (AoE) Recharge Slow Effects Sleep · Confusion Spine You throw a spine at your foe that, on impact, release a number of alkaloids and hallucinogenic compounds. The foe will become violently confused and will turn and attack your other foes, ignoring you and all your allies. You will not receive any Experience Points for foes defeated entirely by Confused enemies. Type Ranged Recharge Moderate Effects Confuse · Creeper Vines You can create a Creeper patch at a targeted location. The patch will snag foes, slowing their movement, and preventing them from jumping or flying. Additionally, a Creeper Vine will burst from under each live and defeated foe in the area and start attacking your enemies. Creeper Vines do minimal damage, but they can knock down your enemies and its poisonous thorns can slow your foes. Type Summon Creepers, Ranged (AoE) Recharge Very long Effects Foe: -Speed, -Fly, -Jump |
I like it, make it so!
Here's my thing with a Praetorian EAT:
They're not done with the primary storylines of Praetoria yet.
Now, yeah, this is all opinion and POV, but the way I see Epic ATs are as - well, think "Professor of Fifth Dynasty Egyptology" versus "History teacher." One focuses in FAR more detail on a specific segment of the lore (the Epic) while the other (standard AT) touches on it in passing. (And yes, the VEATs were rushed and did a piss-poor job of this - you can tell, the early arcs had some work done, the latter ones might as well not exist, capped off with that horrible metagame "Doctor brainstorm proliferated powers" speech.) After all, "Epic" in this use is "Tied to the lore."
Unfortunately, it seems a lot of people just look at it and go "ooh, powers." Or maybe "powers and graphics." (Or even "ooh, tankmage.")
So - while looking for a PEAT, ask yourself what would be doable with a unique storyline that makes sense from 1-50? As interesting as a DE-based one would be - how would you play it in Praetoria? As soon as you stepped foot in there, pretty much everyone should converge to wipe you out. Even in Primal (well, maybe not the Isles,) you'd be seen as a threat. What would make an interesting 1-50 storyline for the guys with the backpack - and still make sense to play with the existing storylines? What isn't actually covered that can be looked into with enough detail to *make* a set of existing storylines?
And, for a Praetorian EAT, especially - think of the storyline work for hero, villain *and* side switching. No, it hasn't been updated for HEAT or VEAT, but the tech didn't exist at the time, either. A PEAT would really have to be written taking that into account.
The Coralax, the Blood of the Black Stream, even potentially the Rikti (though I think they're covered fairly well, I can see going through the Rikti Civil War being enough to pull from 1-50 - as well as choosing sides) I'd say have more potential there than a Praetorian at the moment.
And if your reaction is "Who cares," well, you're ignoring what the "E" stands for and don't want an Epic AT then. You want a powerset.
I would have agreed with you when "Epic" meant getting a toon to level 50 first before unlocking the EAT. But now that it has been reduced to level 20 and Praetorian content goes to level 20 (And a step higher when we get full access to First Ward) I see no reason for NOT having a PEAT now.
Having said that, I would still love to see others made available first. Rikti for sure, and I would really love to see the Kheld "Family" expanded with Quantum's, Void's & Galaxies. I would also love to see a Longbow HEAT.
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And this is why I will keep plugging for a Rikti EAT, above any others.
The Rikti are cool. They are a unique group, with distinct looks, their own aesthetics and are perhaps one of the biggest columns in the CoH lore. Without them, there would be no Paragon or Rogue Isles as we know them today.
The Rikti also have a huge scope for story, on both Hero AND Villain side;
Hero:
You are a member of the Traditionalists, whether through birth on the Rikti homeworld and either staying true to the Old Ways or defecting at a later date from the Lineage of War, or as a former Primal Human who, through various means, has evolved to new heights.
You value the Old Ways, discussion and thought over the rashness of the Restructurists. Your allegiance is to the Rikti Way, and to the Treaty with mankind, a unity for the greater good. That is not to say you are afraid of getting your hands dirty; sometimes sacrifices must be made.
Villain:
You are a member of the Restructurists, or maybe even a now-Rogue free-agent. Whether a Rikti born or a Lost convert, you threw in your lot with the Lineage of War.
What you do now, though, is up to you. Either follow Hro'Dtohz and his visions for a new Rikti Dominion, where the strong survive and rule, or strike out fully on your own, with your new dreams and vision that are grander than any of them can imagine.
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And that's not even getting started on the branching ATs. I would suggest Warrior and Mentalist, two distinct ATs with their own unique, and perhaps a common pool, of powers.
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And this is why I will keep plugging for a Rikti EAT, above any others.
The Rikti are cool. They are a unique group, with distinct looks, their own aesthetics and are perhaps one of the biggest columns in the CoH lore. Without them, there would be no Paragon or Rogue Isles as we know them today. The Rikti also have a huge scope for story, on both Hero AND Villain side; Hero: You are a member of the Traditionalists, whether through birth on the Rikti homeworld and either staying true to the Old Ways or defecting at a later date from the Lineage of War, or as a former Primal Human who, through various means, has evolved to new heights. You value the Old Ways, discussion and thought over the rashness of the Restructurists. Your allegiance is to the Rikti Way, and to the Treaty with mankind, a unity for the greater good. That is not to say you are afraid of getting your hands dirty; sometimes sacrifices must be made. Villain: You are a member of the Restructurists, or maybe even a now-Rogue free-agent. Whether a Rikti born or a Lost convert, you threw in your lot with the Lineage of War. What you do now, though, is up to you. Either follow Hro'Dtohz and his visions for a new Rikti Dominion, where the strong survive and rule, or strike out fully on your own, with your new dreams and vision that are grander than any of them can imagine. --- And that's not even getting started on the branching ATs. I would suggest Warrior and Mentalist, two distinct ATs with their own unique, and perhaps a common pool, of powers. |
Has it's possibilities.
Hmm...
I'm just thinking what origin or backstory would be interesting to play.
- Technology would fit great but we already have many cool clockwork toons. Perhaps something else then.
- New Seed of hamidon looks like a gigantic, armoured peacebringer... no. Too similar with old one.
- Super agent. Maybe but not too similar with arachnos. Perhaps no then.
- Scientific experiment Yes I love weird scientific experiments and mad scientists! Perhaps they tried to create new kind of ghouls but accidentally made something totally new. Perhaps some kind of shapeshifter. Not too similar powers with warhsades/peacebringers.
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Peacebringers those flying sperm cells looking creatures are like children of praetorian giant monster
Prunejuice is warriors drink.
There are so many possibilities. Longbow, Vanguard, Rikti... regardless of what the theme is... I think we can all agree it needs to be versatile.
Personally... I'd like to see a 'mind jumper' kind of deal. Where you can choose to 'posses' a Minion/LT/Boss* and depending on the kind of enemy it is... you gain different powers in your power tray. Functionally I think it could work similarly to the Kheldian transformations.
*Obviously this would have to be limited somewhat, so to avoid allowing someone to take over an AV or Giant Monster/messing with mission objectives.
I was brainstorming with a friend about what we'd like to see, and this is pretty much what we agreed upon:
- Praetorian Devouring Earth Archetype, which has been oft-describe by others already.
- Either the introduction of Epic Powersets allowing us to play Force Control / Pulse Assault Praetorian Police Dominators, or a VEAT-style PPD AT that allowed you to perhaps branch off into IDF or DUST.
- Praetorian Clockwork Archetype, so we can finally have a mecha-AT with fun moving bits that shoot lasers. 
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... which... has not been the definition of Epic. And never has been. Epic has always = tied to the lore/tied to a story ("Epic" in the sense of "Epic of Gilgamesh.") And shortchanging a PEAT by having its own unique story cut off at 20 would be rather weak.
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And this is why I will keep plugging for a Rikti EAT, above any others.
The Rikti are cool. They are a unique group, with distinct looks, their own aesthetics and are perhaps one of the biggest columns in the CoH lore. Without them, there would be no Paragon or Rogue Isles as we know them today. The Rikti also have a huge scope for story, on both Hero AND Villain side; Hero: You are a member of the Traditionalists, whether through birth on the Rikti homeworld and either staying true to the Old Ways or defecting at a later date from the Lineage of War, or as a former Primal Human who, through various means, has evolved to new heights. You value the Old Ways, discussion and thought over the rashness of the Restructurists. Your allegiance is to the Rikti Way, and to the Treaty with mankind, a unity for the greater good. That is not to say you are afraid of getting your hands dirty; sometimes sacrifices must be made. Villain: You are a member of the Restructurists, or maybe even a now-Rogue free-agent. Whether a Rikti born or a Lost convert, you threw in your lot with the Lineage of War. What you do now, though, is up to you. Either follow Hro'Dtohz and his visions for a new Rikti Dominion, where the strong survive and rule, or strike out fully on your own, with your new dreams and vision that are grander than any of them can imagine. --- And that's not even getting started on the branching ATs. I would suggest Warrior and Mentalist, two distinct ATs with their own unique, and perhaps a common pool, of powers. |
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An ever-increasing error these days. "Epic", like "ironic", has had its original meaning chewed up and pooped out into a new pop-culture infused shadow of its former purpose. Similar mutilations of the English language include: "Radical", "Awesome", and "Exceptional". All of these, however, are nothing compared to "Irregardless".
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epic [ep-ik]
ep·ic [ep-ik] Show IPA
adjective Also, ep·i·cal.
1. noting or pertaining to a long poetic composition, usually centered upon a hero, in which a series of great achievements or events is narrated in elevated style: Homer's Iliad is an epic poem.
2. resembling or suggesting such poetry: an epic novel on the founding of the country.
3. heroic; majestic; impressively great: the epic events of the war.
4. of unusually great size or extent: a crime wave of epic proportions.
noun
5. an epic poem.
6. epic poetry.
7. any composition resembling an epic.
8. something worthy to form the subject of an epic: The defense of the Alamo is an American epic.
9. ( initial capital letter ) Also called Old Ionic. the Greek dialect represented in the Iliad and the Odyssey, apparently Aeolic modified by Ionic.
World English Dictionary
epic (ˈɛpɪk)
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1. a long narrative poem recounting in elevated style the deeds of a legendary hero, esp one originating in oral folk tradition
2. the genre of epic poetry
3. any work of literature, film, etc, having heroic deeds for its subject matter or having other qualities associated with the epic: a Hollywood epic
4. an episode in the lives of men in which heroic deeds are performed or attempted: the epic of Scott's expedition to the South Pole
— adj
5. denoting, relating to, or characteristic of an epic or epics
6. of heroic or impressive proportions: an epic voyage
... so I'm not sure what definition *you* are looking at and saying I'm wrong. Seems their definition fits farily well in with this. Now, if I were saying something about Epic ATs having to be "godmode," which some (incorrectly) have said in the past, you'd have a point.
I completely agree that it should be heavily tied into lore.
I Also agree that it is fine to have it available after making it to 20 goldside. I'm not sure if that has any bearing on how well it should be tied into lore.
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I think this response is akin to those who still want the Sybil costumes.
Hopefully the devs are Already working on this. But anyway...
anyone have any cool ideas for a potential Praetorian EAT (unlocked by getting a Praetorian to 20, and only startable in Praetoria)?
My idea is a Hamidon/DE based EAT....but I don't really have any ideas yet for how to make that an interesting and unique AT...
anybody?
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