It's true as long as you have that AT unlocked which won't be, or might not be the case for F2P/premium players.
I haven't heard "any." I heard that the 10 base AT will now start in Galaxy City. I don't know about VEATS and HEATS, and what will happen to Praetoria as a starting zone. And I don't know if Atlas Park is still a starting zone.
The tutorial IS Galaxy City (i.e., GC is no longer a "normal" zone), and yes, you will be able to start ANY non-EAT (no Khelds or SoAs/Widows) in it. During the tutorial you decide via your in-game actions whether to be a villain or hero, regardless of the AT you chose, and then you will be ushered to the appropriate starting zone for your alignment (Atlas Park or Mercy).
Praetoria is unchanged.
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"Any" probably (did we get confirmation) excludes Khelds and VEATs, and if you're new/free/short time premium/add other non-VIP disclaimers here you won't have MMs and Controllers... but other than that, yeah.
Can't remember where I saw it, but they said that ALL 14 ATs start in the new tutorial and can go to either side. I specifically remember them saying that a VEAT can go to Atlas Park at level 1. I think it was mentioned in a uStream.
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and yes, you will be able to start ANY non-EAT (no Khelds or SoAs/Widows) in it.
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Ok, thanks guys.
Praetoria is available as a starting zone if it is unlocked for you. Then you have a choice of the Galaxy tutorial or the Praetoria tutorial.
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Whatever, HEATs/VEATs, you all know what I meant.
As for the various EATs -- NO, they may NOT "cross over" to the customarily opposite side. Of course if you have unlocked HEAT/VEAT access, you may start one in the tutorial, but you cannot take a VEAT to Atlas, nor a HEAT to Mercy. You are "locked" into following the traditional alignment starting path (until level 20, if you have access to the alignment system) with those toons.
(All this is subject to change during the ongoing Beta effort, I'm sure.)
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Eric, with i21, there won't BE any starting point other than Galaxy. I'm not even sure if we'll have the option to skip the tutorial. And like I said before, the devs specifically made mention of starting a VEAT in Atlas (but like I said, I'm pretty sure it was during a uStream, and I don't really have the several hours to devote to re-watching them all).
Edit: Just realized that we said the same thing re: the starting point, so ignore that. The rest stands.
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Eric, with i21, there won't BE any starting point other than Galaxy. I'm not even sure if we'll have the option to skip the tutorial. And like I said before, the devs specifically made mention of starting a VEAT in Atlas (but like I said, I'm pretty sure it was during a uStream, and I don't really have the several hours to devote to re-watching them all).
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B) Regardless of what anyone's said, VEATs/HEATs do NOT have the ability to go anywhere other than their usual starting locations (i.e., HEATS > Atlas, VEATs > Mercy). As I said, of course, that's subject to change (but makes little sense to me if they do change it).
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I don't know if EATs will be able to do the tutorial. After all, the VEATs can not do the redside tutorial (they were never broken out of the Zig as part of Project Destiny).
So, I'm guessing that EATs will go directly to either AP (HEATs) or Mercy (VEATs) and not access the tutorial at all.
BTW, all incidences of being broken out of the Zig are being rewritten out of all the redside arcs.
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Whatever, HEATs/VEATs, you all know what I meant.
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Of course. Just bored at work and nitpicking that the game usE's the term "Soldiers of Arachnos" to refer to both Arachnos soldiers and Arachnos widows.
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For the purposes of getting Isolator and Jailbird, will the old tutorials still be part of the ouroborus training arc?
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I don't know if EATs will be able to do the tutorial. After all, the VEATs can not do the redside tutorial (they were never broken out of the Zig as part of Project Destiny).
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I don't see any reason they'd remove them.
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For the purposes of getting Isolator and Jailbird, will the old tutorials still be part of the ouroborus training arc?
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Originally Posted by gameboy1234
I heard that the 10 base AT will now start in Galaxy City.
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I do... those events, for any new characters... are not IN your past at all. As such, you can't (logically) go back to them.|
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I don't see any reason they'd remove them.
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That said, I really hope they have all of this figured out so badges are not inaccessible AND the Ouro arc makes sense to the new starting experience.
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Unless you are one of the people who does every mission and arc on the same character, many story arcs accessible through Ouroboros won't be in a character's past at all. Why should that matter for the tutorials, and not the rest of Ouroboros?
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I do... those events, for any new characters... are not IN your past at all. As such, you can't (logically) go back to them.
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The Ouroboros Initiation arc is different from just redoing any old arc in that it's supposed to be a retelling of the tutorial where, according to in game storyline, every character gets their start. Which means that once the old tutorial gets written out and the new one gets put in, all characters will start in Galaxy City during the Coming Storm and not fighting an Outbreak/taking part in a Breakout. So they couldn't allow folks access to these tutorials anymore during said Ouro story arc.|
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Unless you are one of the people who does every mission and arc on the same character, many story arcs accessible through Ouroboros won't be in a character's past at all. Why should that matter for the tutorials, and not the rest of Ouroboros?
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However, they could just as easily toss 'em in as their own little independent mission available via Pillar of Ice and Flame. But I think the devs do have a specific solution underway for the whole badge thing, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
I do... those events, for any new characters... are not IN your past at all. As such, you can't (logically) go back to them.
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I stand corrected. This is indeed what happens.
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Tutorial leading into each. VEATs/HEATs skip it entirely.
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I stand corrected. This is indeed what happens.
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I heard someone say that once Freedom launches that we will be able to start any AT in any starter zone (ie. I could start a Corruptor in Galaxy city, ect.) is this true or has someone gotten something completely wrong?