First look at Catwoman and Talia from Dark Knight Rises

Well if you ever become a hi-tech thief in real life and decide that set of costume cat ears are indispensable for your activies then more power to you.

I think you're reading a little too much into my take on this. If Hathaway's character decides she's going to wear cat ears just because it'd be a fun way to mock Batman's outfit then I'd be fine with that too. I just don't think she's going to automatically wear them because as Catwoman she's "supposed" to. As we said Ledger's Joker wore the clown paint to "scare" people. I figure if Hathaway wears the ears it'll be for another reason other than "her character requires it".

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Well I kind of made that point about this a few days ago. We watched the first Nolan Batman movie where Bale went through like half the movie before he finally wore a "real" Batsuit. Maybe it'll take a while for Hathaway to evolve into a "catsuit" of her own?

Yes, how could I have possibly mistook the meaning.


Well... yeah. I would hope they'd give a reason for the outfit. They gave Batman and Joker good reasons for their outfits, so why are they suddenly wussing out on Catwoman?

Based on my last post here I think we can safely apply a big benefit of the doubt here. Basically just because we've seen a couple of pics without ears does not mean she will -never- wear them in this movie. Let's wait until we actually see the movie (or 100s of additional movie pics) before we jump to one conclusion or another.

Given the track record of comic book movies until just recently; I think we can be forgiven for assuming the worst.

Precisely, thank you.

Here's a thought: maybe she would wear cat ears because she has a slightly crazy obsession with cats. The sort of obsession that might drive someone to become Catwoman rather than a run-of-the-mill burglar. Obsession is a common theme in the Bat-gallery.

I can live with that, especially if the character is portrayed well. Judging from the past two movies, I don't expect to be completely happy with the aesthetics anyway.

That's fine, and actually pretty close to what I was suggesting a couple of days ago about any ears she has being part of the tech she uses. Assuming she wears those goggles up like a headband for longer than like 2 seconds so that the audience has a decent chance to "get the reference" that's all that's really needed.

I would guess there will be a blurry press photograph showing a silhouette with the goggles up looking like cat ears. Leading the press to dub her Cat Woman. But she will never use the name herself.

I prefer this kind of real world approach. There is no sane reason why she would dress as a cat, and I would rather have a completely sane Selena Kyle. Loonies have been done to death.

Then why make it a Batman movie?

Loonies and outlandish costumes ARE Batman. If you're going to throw all that out, why not make it an original character. Hollywood could always use new content.

Plus, Batman is already dressing up as a bat. Say what you want about how functional his ears and cape are; he's still dressing up like a bat. Why is it so farfetched that a cat burglar with a flair for the dramatic (like Selina Kyle) might read about him and think, "hey, I kinda like that idea". From that point her choice of costume is obvious.

Look, I'm not saying she needs to be in the purple spandex with a tail. We've already established that in Nolan's movies, color=bad and body armor is the only acceptable super hero outfit. But would it be so bad to just give her a cowl with some subtle cat ears on it? Even with the exact suit and goggles we've already seen, the cowl would have her pretty much in line with the current Catwoman outfit.

The idea of the goggles being the ears when she pushes them up on her head is something at least. But it still feels like a cop-out.

Which is the problem.

With Heath Ledger's performance loonies have been done so well that anything else will look poor in comparison.

The point of the current cycle of Batman movies is to try and make it look like it could almost happen in the real world. Which was what made Heath's Joker so effective - you could believe such a person could really exist.

I'm sure Batman movies will eventually go back to Batman and Robin style daygo stupidity, but I like a more realistic approach.

Batman dresses as a bat to inspire fear. And some people ARE afraid of bats. More importantly, he needs to be RECOGNISED. Intimidation is a major weapon in his arsenal, that wont work if people don't know who he is..

If you are a stealth based thief, you do not need to intimidate anyone, you certainly don't want to be recognised, and you don't want false ears and a tail that could flop about and trigger alarms.

This is what you take from a cat: claws for climbing, night vision, enhanced audio, agility, camouflage, possibly whiskers.

This is what you leave behind: large ears (not needed for electronically enhanced hearing, gets in the way), tail (if you aren't actually a cat, it hinders balance, not helps).

One kind of loony has been done well. This does not preclude other kinds of loonies. Bane is a loony - the crazy-smart kind with an obsessive vendetta, similar to Batman yet different.

I don't particularly prefer either of those options, but I'll accept either if they end up done well. Nolan's Batman has been *okay* so far. But each time stuff gets released beforehand it leaves me rather leery. His vision sucks, but he seems to present it well and get decent enough performances to at least make it watchable.

Not really.

At least I didn't. He was over-the-top and his abilities were exaggerated. That's what made him a fun villain. Realistically, the Joker would've never survived through even HALF of the movie.

But that's why we go to see movies in general and comic book movies in particular (at least it's why I go and see them), to see stuff that wouldn't happen in real life. Like a man dressing up as a bat and fighting crime, or a nut who can lay siege to an entire city, or a cat burglar who dresses up like a cat.


Yeah, the current Catwoman doesn't have a tail. And you don't need LARGE ears. Batman has had subtler ears on more than one occasion.




Maybe you want to be recognized for a different reason by other types of people. Maybe she'd want to stand out from other cat burglars to the people who might hire her. Maybe she wants fences and the like to be wary of double crossing her cause she's dressed up in a crazy outfit and they don't know WHAT she'll do to them.

Not to mention that if you're wearing a cowl and goggles, yer not gonna be recognized if someone happens to see you. The movie version; if she happens to have those goggles pushed up, her face is perfectly visible. If you're dressed up as a cat and someone spots you, they're not gonna remember your face; they're gonna remember that you were dressed up as a cat.

Let the games begin.