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Circle of Thorns: The REAL Problem

AzureSkyCiel

By AzureSkyCiel,
Posted on: 2011-07-30 18:38 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Of course, the biggest beef I have with CoTs is just the fact that I'm playing a Super-Hero game and those losers are refugees from Everquest or something. I don't mind the occasional CoT mission but I generally think the lore, their base maps, their lame lack of respectable archvillains or even memorable named bosses are a waste in this game.
Yes, because there's never any magic or demons in comic books.

 

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Please check last post date.

I swear, with all the thread necromancy around here the forums will look like a zombie apocalypse.
It's either this or somebody saying why didn't you use the search function to see what we've already said on the subject.

 

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Contempt? No, I quite respect the Circle. A shadowy, secret cult from the 19th century now revived and using ancient arcane magic to battle modern day heroes? Love it.

Alas, the CoT have vanished from Paragon and instead seem to have been replaced with people who think they're in Gwar. I avoid CoT missions these days but not because of their pain in the backside powers anymore.

And necromancy on a thread about the Thorns? Nice touch.

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IMO CoT Possessed Scientists can actually be pretty scary too, at least for characters who lack mezz protection. They just don't show up inside any missions to my knowledge. I occasionally pick on them around Peregrine Island, but on squishy characters they have turned the tables on me a few times. A pack of x8 of those would be potentially scary, if for no other reason than you can't tell what abilities they have until you are held, stunned, slowed, and immobilized.

 

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IMO CoT Possessed Scientists can actually be pretty scary too, at least for characters who lack mezz protection. They just don't show up inside any missions to my knowledge.
They turn up in Tavish Bell's Code Merlin arc on villains. They can be quite challenging or quite easy, depending on what flavour they are and what sets you have.

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Yes, because there's never any magic or demons in comic books.
In Marvel comics, the closest approximation I can recall is Kulan Gath, who turned all of New York into Dark Age of Conan during a couple issues of the X-men about 25 years ago. It's not the magic or the demons I dislike as being forced into a generic fantasy setting. Doctor Strange and the like still live and participate in the modern world.

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Level ranges on the CoT is a confounding prospect for me. Personally, I'd like to see none of their characters with an upper-level limit. I don't get why there's only one element of Thorn to wield in a given five-level range. I don't get why Madness Mages and Force Mages and can't expand their powers as level increases.

 

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I still want my Pope Hat.
This! Give me the pope hat! I dont want to look like one of those minions who have weapons we don't get, I wanna make my Reformed Air Thorn Caster (Elec/Elec/Cold Blaster)!

And so what if the pope hat causes clipping with force fields - my PeaceBringer's wings cause clipping with his shields, and I don't complain!

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In Marvel comics, the closest approximation I can recall is Kulan Gath, who turned all of New York into Dark Age of Conan during a couple issues of the X-men about 25 years ago. It's not the magic or the demons I dislike as being forced into a generic fantasy setting. Doctor Strange and the like still live and participate in the modern world.
Yes, because the Circle of Thorns never appear in warehouses, office buildings, or cargo ships.

Seriously, the Circle has as much presence in urban environments as every other enemy group in this game. Being the average equivolent to an evil, secretive cult found throughout comics and pulp fiction, they could be anyone and anywhere when not hanging out in their secret meeting place of Oranbega. That's what makes the Circle so spooky.

And read some Thor. There were whole arcs that involved Asgard and Asgard only. Heroes marching into ancient, subterranean ruins filled with magical forces isn't absent from comics either.

The Circle of Thorns fits in just fine.

 

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I forgot about the floating book emote! So I guess that's two so far. Also, I must agree that this group fits just well as an enemy group and of course as a group where former members will leave to use their powers as full heroes, rogue villains or straight up vigilantes. My toon is in the midst of the moral choice of becoming a villain just to attain soul mastery or stay a vigilante and attain the epic power to control fire. Either way it still represents the lore of the Circle of Thorns.

I am glad that people are taking interest in this group be it negative or positive interest. All of my toons will have some variation of the costume. I might even create a Broadsword/ Regeneration brute ONLY villain group to spark some more interest so maybe an expansion of the costume pieces may take place even if it means doing a small arc to attain some of the costume pieces rather than expanding the bundle.

I still want to be randomly ambushed by them so I feel more like this an epic archetype!

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Im pretty sure there is the floating book emote

 

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I think a thread must be dead at least 3 months before it's necromancy. This one is fine.

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I thought we were still in October...man this year is missing months somewhere...

 

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I think a thread must be dead at least 3 months before it's necromancy. This one is fine.

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I thought we were still in October...man this year is missing months somewhere...
According to Moderator 05 it's 30 days, not 90.

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Even so, the issue stands that several villain groups that span multiple ranges tend to have some very strange limitations of specific enemies in their ranks.


The second issue being the lack of certain pieces being in the CoT costume bundle and no explanation being given as to why. (Even positron seemed to just be guessing)

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I forgot about the floating book emote! So I guess that's two so far. Also, I must agree that this group fits just well as an enemy group and of course as a group where former members will leave to use their powers as full heroes, rogue villains or straight up vigilantes. My toon is in the midst of the moral choice of becoming a villain just to attain soul mastery or stay a vigilante and attain the epic power to control fire. Either way it still represents the lore of the Circle of Thorns.
Have you considered using different builds so that you can use both?

 

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I'm just sorry for the Thorn Wielders that they lost their snazzy red-trimmed robes in the makeover. They're almost indistinguishable from the ordinary mass of Guides, Defenders, and Archers now.

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Have you considered using different builds so that you can use both?
I forgot about that! Damn! Will do, thanks!

 

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You might like my costume then!




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I'm just sorry for the Thorn Wielders that they lost their snazzy red-trimmed robes in the makeover. They're almost indistinguishable from the ordinary mass of Guides, Defenders, and Archers now.