Ooh, new splash screen.


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Sam, there's just one thing I don't get about your request:

If it's the login screen, then we haven't logged in yet. If we haven't logged in yet, then how does it know who we are? If it doesn't know who we are, how can it pick one of our characters to display?

And no, saving a local file while your logged in, and loading it later doesn't work - you'll still get someone else's character if the computer is shared.


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I was actually thinking yesterday that the current one looks outdated Still think it should have a competition every month to have player created costumes on it though


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Aha. So you come into a threat talking about the new splash screen - the one that's on the login menu - then insist on speaking about other splash screens, intentionally ignore all that I say, then insult me. Great. That's nice going there. Here's a hint - it's a discussion thread. I happen to enjoy discussing THE splash screen - the one that's on the login menu. Not the zone loading screens, not the mission loading screens, not the splash backgrounds for the editor or the mission architect, not the splash screen for the old or the new site. THE splash screen in question - the one that's on the login menu.

And if you'd taken a moment out of your reflex to bash me because it's me, you might have noticed that I said I like the splash screen. It's nice, bright and high-quality. It's better than what we have now for City of Heroes, which is a 7-year-old, low-resolution pic of pretty low-quality models that came out of pre-2000s prerendered cinematic, specifically that one City of Heroes intro that doesn't seem to be in any of the new releases, where the Statesman takes out a Rikti saucer.

But that's OK. You don't like me and prefer to sidetrack things I've said. I get it. Can we move on now, please? Like into a discussion about the splash screen? You know, the one that's on the loading menu, the one that's in Leandro's pic and the one that the thread is named after? Because that's the one I was referring to. The login menu is where I want to see either pictures of my characters or straight-up 3D models of them instead of a splash screen. That's on the login menu and not on any other splash screen anywhere else in the game. Just the login menu splash screen.

Am I being clear enough now or do you think there's somewhere else that Champions had splash screens that I failed to mention?

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Bah!
Like i said in the thread on fanart forum, gimme Mynx vs Bobcat instead and i'll be intrested!


 

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Sam, there's just one thing I don't get about your request:

If it's the login screen, then we haven't logged in yet. If we haven't logged in yet, then how does it know who we are? If it doesn't know who we are, how can it pick one of our characters to display?

And no, saving a local file while your logged in, and loading it later doesn't work - you'll still get someone else's character if the computer is shared.
Hmm... OK, that is a good point that I hadn't thought about. I suppose since I'm the only person who plays City of Heroes on any of the PCs where I have it installed, I kind of assumed this would be obvious, and it really isn't. What to do... What to do...

Well, I suppose I don't mind seeing someone else's character before I log in. Have it display the last character that was logged into the game, whether it be mine or someone else's. And you have a point - it can't be random, since the game can't draw out of our character pools before we log in. It doesn't have access to them.

My point is that if I can see a real character made by a real player on the splash screen, I'd enjoy it a lot more. Whatever spash screen the art team makes, it'll always contain someone else's characters. That's not a criticism against them, that's just reality and I completely understand. Which is why I feel putting actual player characters on the splash screen would be so much cooler.

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I'd go a step beyond that, by the way. I've always wanted to see other people's creations show up in my missions, like in Mayhem and Safeguard missions, at least, or any place which calls for a hero or a villain that's not tied to the story in any way. I mean, it's not that I expect to like xXxEvilDevilxXx more than Ms Shock, but there's something about using real characters that always trumps using fake ones.


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You see splash screens with similar frequency in CO.

Take your pedantry somewhere constructive Sam, christ. We get it, nothing suits your standards.
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You're wrong.
Yeah, that's what I get for taking you off ignore. Lesson learned.


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That explains that Eagle in the LRSF...
haha, nice thought! lol

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I'm getting two vibes off that image.

"I'm gonna hug the **** outta you!"

"CAREBEAR STARE!"
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I still want to know why a BCU is such a menace to States. Either he forgot to slot his Alpha, or someone in the art department reaaaalllllllyy must hate Jack.

And I agree; if anything at least a "Vicki" would look cooler like she's about to slice him up or something.


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And I agree; if anything at least a "Vicki" would look cooler like she's about to slice him up or something.
Well, she's actually there, just can't see her until she actually connects.

Statesman didn't take tactics .


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And I agree; if anything at least a "Vicki" would look cooler like she's about to slice him up or something.
Huh... You know, I agree with this completely. The BCU has that "big terminator thing" going for it, but a Victoria robot would bring a lot more class to the picture, in my opinion. One of the problems of both stories and story covers is that they eventually come down to one meathead rushing to punch another meathead, to where the impact is lessened. Stick a female robot in there - and one designed for melee combat, no less - and the pic immediately becomes much more unusual and much more interesting, in my mind.


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You ignore anyone who tells you you're wrong? The froums must be an empty place for you
You have almost 60,000 posts.


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Welp, it doesn't. Still uses 1024x768, and I see no options screen on the login prompt or server selection. Not being in the beta, I can poke around no further.
Command line options. -screen 1920 1080 will do the trick.

You can also use -demoplay to replay demos recorded on Live.


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You ignore anyone who tells you you're wrong? The froums must be an empty place for you
Now, where does THAT attitude seem familiar from...?


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Now, where does THAT attitude seem familiar from...?
60,000 various and sundry posts?


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Oh. That'd be it.


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You ignore anyone who tells you you're wrong? The froums must be an empty place for you
Okay, even I laughed a little at that. Sorry, Sam.


 

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And I agree; if anything at least a "Vicki" would look cooler like she's about to slice him up or something.
Maybe they 'thought' that Statesman about to pound on a female (even if it is a robot) would send the wrong message.

Not that I agree with that notion in the least... him getting stomped on by a woman is JUST what he needs.

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Not that I agree with that notion in the least... him getting stomped on by a woman is JUST what he needs.
Actually, looking at the splash in question again, I'm inclined to believe that what he needs most is for the rest of the Phalanx to chip in and buy him the other half of his helmet.

It's 2011, guys - costume designs you couldn't do any better than at launch really don't have to be stuck with just to be stubborn, and Statesman's mask remains one of the silliest-looking costume features in the game world, especially when he's posed in profile. If you're revamping the look-and-feel of the game to try and inject new dynamism and attract new players, but you want to keep showcasing the same high-profile signature character, you could at least address his more glaring visual shortcomings...


 

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Yeah, that's what I get for taking you off ignore. Lesson learned.
Pffft, like you have anyone on ignore. That would limit your chances to express your distaste at every opportunity.


 

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Okay, even I laughed a little at that. Sorry, Sam.
Nothing to worry about. I wouldn't have spent as much time as I do arguing with people over the Internet if that were true. I just ignore HER.


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Maybe they 'thought' that Statesman about to pound on a female (even if it is a robot) would send the wrong message.
Eh, I don't know. I'm not really a fan of violence against women, but I am FIRMLY in favour of putting women on the same footing as men when it comes to action and adventure, and this has the unfortunate implication of putting them in a position to get punched in the face. We can't really have one without the other.

I do agree with you in that there might be a slightly wrong vibe, but not for the reasons you believe. For YEARS fiction writers of all genres have treated women as victims of violence, stuffing them in fridges and using them as sock deaths. You know, because many male writers are chauvinists and either see women as weak or like putting them in bondage. We are (or at least I am) conditioned to expect that every time a writer creates an action girl, it's so he can have her broken, humiliated and killed. That's why I always feel uneasy watching action girls in even remotely violent stories - not because I don't trust them to be strong enough, but more because I expect the writer to be an *******.

Actually, it is for that reason as well that I feel a Vicky would be more appropriate for the main splash screen. Games where musclebound men hit other musclebound men in the face are a dime a dozen. Games where a sleek, feminine robot kicks your ***, though? Those aren't are common, not by FAR. It's a good way to make the game stand our right from the start.

Actually, to be honest, I have to admit that I've gotten into more than a few games for no reason greater than because I liked a banner on a site somewhere. Hell, all I needed to get me to try Spiral Knights, for instance, was a look at their character design. Good first impressions count for a LOT.

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Actually, looking at the splash in question again, I'm inclined to believe that what he needs most is for the rest of the Phalanx to chip in and buy him the other half of his helmet.
I remember a thread from way back in 2005 titled "What would you do if you were Statesman for a day?" at the time asking what players would change if they were Jack "Statesman" Emmert, lead designer, for a day. And many players spoke about repealing ED, messing with PvP and on and on. One player that I still remember, however, said: "Get a helmet that covers my whole head." I still get a chuckle out of it to this day

And, incidentally, I agree completely. I HATE the Statesman's costume. I'm probably biassed in this regard, since I really don't light tights costumes in general, especially ones with a full head cowl, but the Statesman is even worse because he's that AND a stupid quarter helmet glued to his cheek bones. He looks like a kid wearing a Statesman Halloween mask. All he's missing is the elastic bad around the back of his head. I know he's supposed to be iconic and golden age and all of that, but at least give the guy a whole helmet! Tyrant's old costume is ten times better, and he's just as old of a design!


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