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Torchwood: Miracle Day

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By Benchpresser,
Posted on: 2011-07-08 11:47 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture

 

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There was that comment that Jack made a few years ago that he was called the Face of Bode which implies that he will be one of the oldest beings in the galaxy. Although they could pull a this is a different reality trick and keep Jack mortal.
RTD has said many times that Jack being called "The Face of Boe" when he was younger and the character named "The Face of Boe" could be a coincidence and that he "loves to kill characters off" so ANYONE can die at any tie for any reason at all, including Jack, Gewn, children, dogs, anything he decides needs to die.

 

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So.

No comments on Episode 2 yet?


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Oh yeah, saw Episode 1 on Thursday, I liked it a lot.

 

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Not yet, no.

Watched Ep 1 in the UK, apparently, it's longer, by a few minutes. Not checked them both to compare, but it's worth waiting for he full HD experience anyway

Really enjoyd the first one, looking forward to Ep 2!

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I liked how Rex was all, "I am in no mood to handle ex-with-her-head-on-backwards. Let's just leave."

 

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So, one thing I am confused about here is the 'series/season' moniker.
Series 1 and 2 had the usual 13 episodes?
But then along comes Children of Earth, which I take was only five episodes. So...kinda like the Tennant 'specials' but with a story running throughout?

But what about Miracle Day? Is it a full 'series' or another sequence of 'specials' Children of Earth? I would prefer the former, but the subtitle makes me think it's the latter.
Anybody know?

 

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Originally Posted by Samothrake View Post
So, one thing I am confused about here is the 'series/season' moniker.
Series 1 and 2 had the usual 13 episodes?
But then along comes Children of Earth, which I take was only five episodes. So...kinda like the Tennant 'specials' but with a story running throughout?

But what about Miracle Day? Is it a full 'series' or another sequence of 'specials' Children of Earth? I would prefer the former, but the subtitle makes me think it's the latter.
Anybody know?

Technically it's a series of 10 episodes. So someplace in between CoE and a "regular" season.


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Originally Posted by Samothrake View Post
So, one thing I am confused about here is the 'series/season' moniker.
Series 1 and 2 had the usual 13 episodes?
But then along comes Children of Earth, which I take was only five episodes. So...kinda like the Tennant 'specials' but with a story running throughout?

But what about Miracle Day? Is it a full 'series' or another sequence of 'specials' Children of Earth? I would prefer the former, but the subtitle makes me think it's the latter.
Anybody know?
Children of Earth was Series 3, this is Series 4.

In the UK our Series or Seasons can be any length really.
The Tennant Specials were Specials because they were longer than regular episodes, spread out over the year and didn't have a "Series" production.

 

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I was curious what the Torchwood fans on board were thinking about Miracle Day. It seems telling that it hasn't generated any discussion in over 2 weeks. After last night's episode, I'm coming to a previously unfathomable realization - I don't care for this series.

It's just sooooooo ssssslllllllllloooooooooooooowwww, at least with plot progression. To make matters worse, the new US replacements seem so bland compared to the old Torchwood regulars, despite being significantly bigger names (Bill Pullman, Mekhi Phifer and Lauren Ambrose) than those UK actors (Gareth David-Lloyd, Burn Gorman and Naoko Mori) probably ever will be.

I'm getting impatient that, before the season started, we knew that people stopped dying. Now, 5-6 weeks (or however many it is) into the season, we know that people stopped dying and *spoiler, sorta* some pharmaceutical company seems suspiciously prepared for this event.

I'll keep watching it, since I'm already invested in it. This series has put a stain on the Torchwood name though.

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I think that's the problem... there's nothing to talk about... yup, the writing is good, the action is good, the direction is good... but... nothing is happening.

After watching episode 4 last night I'm thinking... how can this possibly be a ten part story? How much further can it drag on? What more can happen that hasn't already?
It's not really building to anything, it's just ambling along and we're still no wiser about what's going on then when it started.

So yeah, any discussion can be summed up with:
"Did you see Torchwood?"
"Yup."
There's nothing to actually discuss!

One thing I will point out, that I'm finding annoying is, how does anyone know Jack can die? They say everyone has been made immortal and he's now mortal... but he could just have been made like everyone else, he could still be immortal, just not healing super fast.

 

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Originally Posted by Deacon_NA View Post
I was curious what the Torchwood fans on board were thinking about Miracle Day. It seems telling that it hasn't generated any discussion in over 2 weeks. After last night's episode, I'm coming to a previously unfathomable realization - I don't care for this series.

It's just sooooooo ssssslllllllllloooooooooooooowwww, at least with plot progression. To make matters worse, the new US replacements seem so bland compared to the old Torchwood regulars, despite being significantly bigger names (Bill Pullman, Mekhi Phifer and Lauren Ambrose) than those UK actors (Gareth David-Lloyd, Burn Gorman and Naoko Mori) probably ever will be.

I'm getting impatient that, before the season started, we knew that people stopped dying. Now, 5-6 weeks (or however many it is) into the season, we know that people stopped dying and *spoiler, sorta* some pharmaceutical company seems suspiciously prepared for this event.

I'll keep watching it, since I'm already invested in it. This series has put a stain on the Torchwood name though.

This is one of the problems of running a complete story arc for the series rather than truly episodic content. You're telling ONE story over 13 weeks. Necessarily this is going to mandate that certain things be drawn out moreso than would EVER be considered if the plot-of-the-week had to be resolved by the end of the episode.

Torchwood really did work better as an episodic thing. The single-arc season isn't BAD, just that if you're used to the push of plot, this slowdown can turn you off.


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Torchwood really did work better as an episodic thing. The single-arc season isn't BAD, just that if you're used to the push of plot, this slowdown can turn you off.
The trick to making a single arc season work i that not every single episode of the season should focus on the arc. Mention it perhaps and show that things might be happening with it yes. Actually spend each and every episode focused on the arc? No.

At least not unless you have plotted out each episode carefully so that you can make certain they don't drag.

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I agree about there not really being anything to talk about. I usually end up thinking something along the lines of "wait, that is all this episode was?" by the end of the episode.

On the other hand, the series has presented some interesting sights that normally wouldn't happen such as the person that had the bomb still being alive after they cut his head off completely, the woman with the broken neck walking backwards, and the woman getting crushed then seeing her eyeball still moving inside the wreckage.

 

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I'm actually really enjoying it and am intrigued to see where they are taking it, who is behind it and why. I wonder if the baddies will have a Doctor Who link.

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I'm enjoying it myself, especially without the constant "every 10-minutes", unnatural feeling commercials that BBC America subjects you to.

 

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I'm curious as to where it's headed, but I can't say I'm really enjoying it.

Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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The problem is that it follows the pacing standards of American television series. Go watch the first couple of seasons or Torchwood, or watch the original Being Human or Misfits. Those shows are why I love some British television series. The shows are fast paced and cram in a ton of stuff happening while simultaneously maintaining a coherent story line. Non episodic American television series tend to spend 3 or 4 episodes telling one episode worth of story, the rest being filler.

I'm tired of every episode having 10 minutes worth of Rex springing a leak and another 10 of Oswald walking down hallways.

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Just watched eps 5.

Everything burns *brrr*

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The trick to making a single arc season work i that not every single episode of the season should focus on the arc. Mention it perhaps and show that things might be happening with it yes. Actually spend each and every episode focused on the arc? No.

At least not unless you have plotted out each episode carefully so that you can make certain they don't drag.
Indeed. As first used in Blake's Seven and Dr Who - Key to Time, and further developed in Babylon 5.

Independent episodes with a series long linking story.

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Well, we've had a couple more episodes now.....including the awesome episode 7 where we actually got back to the core of Torchwood, Jack and Gwen!

Bloody excellent I thought, really enjoyed that one

Also, nice reference of The Doctor as well.

Seems we have some inlings of where it all started, no coincidence that bottle of Jacks blood being held aloft was so prominent, and with the thre mysterious gangster men, that looks like Phicorp being set up?

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I completely misjudged what the "module" was for, and had to console a terrified and blubbering galpal. Haaaarrrrrssshh...

Incidentally, anyone driving the 405 through LA, look out for the WHOLE-BUILDING ad takeover by Starz. A 250-foot Jack is a distinct improvement to the skyline :P

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I completely misjudged what the "module" was for, and had to console a terrified and blubbering galpal. Haaaarrrrrssshh...

Incidentally, anyone driving the 405 through LA, look out for the WHOLE-BUILDING ad takeover by Starz. A 250-foot Jack is a distinct improvement to the skyline :P
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Q? Well that explains the miracle!!

 

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Based on how next weekend is the season finale, I guess they have been going slow this entire time to cram a whole bunch of stuff into a single episode.