Have you all noticed that again/still the npc's are HUGE!
They all need to be resized to normal sizes. Even the civileans are too big.
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You haven't really done much there except replace all of his unique costume pieces (the chest logo and arm bits) with stuff from the character creator. The updated headpiece is nice though.
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You haven't really done much there except replace all of his unique costume pieces (the chest logo and arm bits) with stuff from the character creator. The updated headpiece is nice though.
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I do however agree that all of the Blue side NPCs need an update.
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Nope, she's normal size.|
Originally Posted by TamakiRevolution
This will sound bad, but your Valk... is tech fat. She's horribly nano-tech obese. I like your Sister Psyche from the waist up, if that helps :P
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Look at the 'default' for the female body scaler. Look at the waist.
Now, go find me a very athletic or fit woman with a waist that insanely thin? Thats not thin, thats called Anorexic. Valkyire is a girl who wears a full suit of armour (Which in itself is part of the bulk) and wields a damn big sword one handed like its nothing. She's going tp have some muscle on her.
Not look like a dman stick insiect in tin foil >_>
And yes, Psyche's face I couldn't get to look right. She needs a unique render. They all do.
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Well, I hate the trend of the devs to use blend pattern on all the old heroes gloves and boots... Maybe nice in 2004 but now is a poor design.
And I think sport pieces fits very well for speedsters.
Again, and as Techbot said, these are just some ideas to upgrade the visuals of the old heroes a bit, with the tools we players have access to.
If I had devs tools, trust me I would do truly unique looks and revamps for all the heroes, trainers and special NPCs.
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Swan is so tall that she looks like a NBA player, she have the wrong face and that ugly transparent white body painting.|
Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
Get your stinkin' paws off of my Swan. Touch a thread on her cossie and I'll cut ya. I'll cut ya deep f00!
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I cant believe she looks that trashy in 2011.
She screaming for an update even more that Sister Psyche, at least Shalices looks like a woman
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I think it's me :P Both versions are too busy for me.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Nope, she's normal size.
Look at the 'default' for the female body scaler. Look at the waist. |
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First let me say, the thin waist you say is anorexic is just typical comic book style art style. So, I don't think one should ever be all "She looks like so and so" This is superhero stuff.|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Nope, she's normal size.
Look at the 'default' for the female body scaler. Look at the waist. Now, go find me a very athletic or fit woman with a waist that insanely thin? Thats not thin, thats called Anorexic. Valkyire is a girl who wears a full suit of armour (Which in itself is part of the bulk) and wields a damn big sword one handed like its nothing. She's going tp have some muscle on her. Not look like a dman stick insiect in tin foil >_> And yes, Psyche's face I couldn't get to look right. She needs a unique render. They all do. |
Now that that's said, your redesign of Valkyrie isn't to bad, but lose the chin guard whatever it is you used. It looks aweful.
Maybe shorten Swan a bit, but darken her skin tone a bit to make the white show more, but let's not touch her outfit and turn it into a dress. :/
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I still think Swan needs an update badly.
Maybe my redesigns were too similar to the updates made for the Praetorian counterparts but still...
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Well, I'm not saying she couldn't use an update. I just think adding wings is just a terrible idea. And in fact, I like her cape.|
Originally Posted by Angelxman81
I still think Swan needs an update badly.
Maybe my redesigns were too similar to the updates made for the Praetorian counterparts but still... |
But your redesign seemed less "superhero" and more " I'm getting married!" or "I'm an angel!"
I'd rather keep to the superhero look for the FP.
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Tbh Mis lib n swan are fine..sis psy could use a ultra mode boost but the rest could do with a rework.
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I've got to agree that some of the NPCs could do with a trip to Icon, however I will say that not all the new designs the Devs have done I like. I, personally, hate what they did to Seige in the BAF iTrial. I dislike his big Warwalker design.
I like Tech's Valk redesign in the first post and I like Angelxman's Luminary and Swan (although Swan should keep her signature cape). I also like Hercules' Sister P although there should be some more skin showing like in the Concept art in Tech's post.
I think all BaB needs is some new textures for his trousers and top and a new/unique hairdo. I think Citadel/Seige just need to be made a bit more shiney/metalic otherwise their designs are fine. I think Numina's robe could get a new texture design.
Aurora Borealis could get a new cossie following the new design that Sister P should get. I think Infernal is fine as he is. Malaise could do with a complete revamp! Ms Liberty is fine in my opinion but could with new textures for her gloves/boots and a new hairdo. I think Minx should get a make over using the new bits from the Animal Pack. I think Woodsman is fine as is.
I like Black Swan's new model but her wings should be replaced with her signature cape from the old model.
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We should convince the devs to hold a contest to re-design the sig heroes / villains who need it badly, winner's costume gets put into game and whatnot.
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We should convince the devs to hold a contest to re-design the sig heroes / villains who need it badly, winner's costume gets put into game and whatnot.
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The devs can go one step better and make a totally original outfit for her!
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I think she would be perfect if the face was softened up a bit to look more feminine. The proposed version has her face looking far too manly. At least the body does not look sickly and anorexic like the original. (perhaps narrow the shoulders significantly if they are not already in all the way?)
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Your proposed Swan looks damn nice, though. Curren Swan just....ech. Yeah XD
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Well the devs, without using pure custom character editting aside, seem to have no real sense of how to use their own costume editor. I mean for god's sakes, look at the merit vendors, the new Battle Maiden, Bobcat!|
Originally Posted by BrandX
That sounds like a terrible idea!
The devs can go one step better and make a totally original outfit for her! |
I think we could get a compromise. Players make up their versions of signature characters for a contest, and once submitted and selected, the developers could alter it as they see to make it the best fit. Players could also suggest some unique costume pieces and such to be added to the characters in the submission form.
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this is true. But then I'd worry that the one who won just made a worse outfit.|
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Well the devs, without using pure custom character editting aside, seem to have no real sense of how to use their own costume editor. I mean for god's sakes, look at the merit vendors, the new Battle Maiden, Bobcat!
I think we could get a compromise. Players make up their versions of signature characters for a contest, and once submitted and selected, the developers could alter it as they see to make it the best fit. Players could also suggest some unique costume pieces and such to be added to the characters in the submission form. |
Look at the suggestions posted already. The idea for a new Swan? Doesn't fir Swan at all, and really, that's what I fear seeing win out, because there's lots of people out there who don't care for spandex superheroes.
"Got to have that bullet proof vest! I'm not bullet proof! I need to be realistic!"
"What about the fire, the ice shards, the swords, the soul sucking magic, the electrical attacks, and anything basically that isn't a bullet?"
"The bullet proof vest protects against all that too! Duh!"
"That's not realistic."
"It is too!"
And thusly why I'd prefere we just say "Devs update them" rather than leave it in player hands.
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And that's why the Devs would not just judge the entries, but make their own adjustments to them like with the Praetoria Propaganda contest.|
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this is true. But then I'd worry that the one who won just made a worse outfit.
Look at the suggestions posted already. The idea for a new Swan? Doesn't fir Swan at all, and really, that's what I fear seeing win out, because there's lots of people out there who don't care for spandex superheroes. |
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"Got to have that bullet proof vest! I'm not bullet proof! I need to be realistic!"
"What about the fire, the ice shards, the swords, the soul sucking magic, the electrical attacks, and anything basically that isn't a bullet?" "The bullet proof vest protects against all that too! Duh!" "That's not realistic." "It is too!" |
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Lol...I wasn't thinking about the Malta |
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And that's why the Devs would not just judge the entries, but make their own adjustments to them like with the Praetoria Propaganda contest.
Then do yourself a favor and don't look at how Malta operatives get their resistances. |
I was talking about players themselves.
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This will sound bad, but your Valk... is tech fat. She's horribly nano-tech obese. I like your Sister Psyche from the waist up, if that helps :P
--Correction, I hate her face.
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