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I totally think most contacts and trainers need an overhaul. Just look at Foreshadow, Mirror Spirit, the updated Praetors and Maelstrom to see just how nice an NPC can look.
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My only issue here is the use of the Clockwork Chest... I don't think it applies since she is not from, nor has a connection to, Praetoria.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Because she looks awful. Really.
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Heck, Valkyrie should wear the Valkyrie costume set!
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Battle Maiden wears ALL of it
Which, honestly, looks a little boring too. The helmet also looks wrong (and she's bald?) but, hey, at least she looks HD now.
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I don't mind TechBot's Valkyrie, but I don't have a problem with the old one, either. The rest have been pretty hit or miss for me otherwise. I'd love to see updated HD versions of the Phalanx and Vindicators, plus maybe giving Sister Psyche some tweaks, but otherwise I don't care for revamping them entirely.
Edit: And yeah, I don't much care for new Battle Maiden either. She either looks too blah due to the muted colors or too bleh due to the shininess.
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Yeah, the Valk belt didn't fit right. I wanted to stay close to it looking like a functional suit of tech armour, since that's what she's meant to be wearing re: her own bio.|
Originally Posted by ScottyB
Techbot's Valkyrie is amazing. (And you used the Valkyrie boots, but why not the Valkyrie belt? Did it end up looking bad?) Also, don't change the shoulders to Valkyrie "just because" (re:LittleDavid/Valkyrie set) - I like what you chose! Only change it if it actually looks better.
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| Techbot's Luminary is better, but still falls short of the new Nightstar. I'm not sure she should use a proper human-looking face. Maybe the cyborg faceplate and jaw would be better, if it can work with that helmet? |
Again, fully custom-job would be the way forward.
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Originally Posted by LittleDavid
Well, she is wearing some of it in Technobot's suggestion, like how Battle Maiden uses some of the set. I'm just saying, it's a subtle sight gag that she is.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
My only issue here is the use of the Clockwork Chest... I don't think it applies since she is not from, nor has a connection to, Praetoria.
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this is why Luminary only has two, and thats purely because they had the best fits.The Valkyrie chest plate looks blah. So does Cyborg 1. Cyborg 2 glitches horrible on females, even with the chest as far left as possible, and gives them a HUGE rack. Did not want.
Ideally? Unique costume parts. Sadly, I can't do them
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
Also, I myself have thought Statesman could use a slight touch up, I've always thought he might due a bit better with some boots, gloves, and a full Spartan helmet to better capture his "Grecophilia" as well as the concept that he's kind of an old soldier.
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Originally Posted by Xzero45
I think the only nitpicks I have with Statesman's costume is that his cape looks tacked on and unnecessary, and the mask thing has always looked stupid. Remove the cape and put on a real helmet and I'd like it.
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In game, all he really needs is higher quality textures and a re-render. And, yeah, him and Tyrant could both use full helmets like Imperious. It'd be safer, too.
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Okay okay okay! From now on, I'ma call you ... Technochocolate.
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Eh, States costume is pretty much ok, I think. He's a creature of habit, and the CG renders look great.
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Also if we're going to just upgrade his textures, maybe we could make the "fabric" of his shoulder mantle a bit thinner so it really so look like that cape is part of the mantle and not some sewn on extension.
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I hate to be "that guy" but I'm not crazy about designs which are busier rather than simpler. I agree that most of the top NPCs need makeovers, but I think they need to be more iconic, which has always meant streamlined and simpler to me.
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Never been a fan of busy costumes, myself.
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I hate to be "that guy" but I'm not crazy about designs which are busier rather than simpler. I agree that most of the top NPCs need makeovers, but I think they need to be more iconic, which has always meant streamlined and simpler to me.
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Man you can't change her looks, it's like Asking to Changing Super Man Outfit, or Spider Man or Captain America outfit, you can away Update the outfit and use more Enhance Graphics and Programming to make her outfit look new but carry that same look. I rather not see a redesign just use better tech to make that outfit pop up better.
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Actually, She's missing 2 of the helmet details, the chest detail, the wings, and the hips "Color Mask" , which, oddly enough, is missing from the Valkyrie Costume Set Option. It seems kind sad when the signature character can be reproduced by selecting a costume preset, dropping 3 costume pieces and changing 1 (maybe 2, not sure on the face). Heck you don't even have unlink the costume colors.
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Battle Maiden wears ALL of it. Which, honestly, looks a little boring too. The helmet also looks wrong (and she's bald?) but, hey, at least she looks HD now. |
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Man you can't change her looks, it's like Asking to Changing Super Man Outfit, or Spider Man or Captain America outfit, you can away Update the outfit and use more Enhance Graphics and Programming to make her outfit look new but carry that same look. I rather not see a redesign just use better tech to make that outfit pop up better.
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That's NOT just 'enhanced graphics', thats a full re-design and upgrade. For the better, might I add. This isn't the 50s anymore (unless your character is from there, and thats totally understandable)
Theres no point making an outfit 'pop out' more if said outfit is hideously outdated from the start.
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Techbot Alpha maybe you want to change the name of the thread to Heroes Redesign or something of your taste, since we made redesigns for different heroes.
I updated my first post with my visions on some heroes.
I wanted to keep it iconic, but simple and modern at same time so, my take on some of them, Valkyrie included:
I can't change the title, otherwise I would have
I'm not personally a fan of Valkyrie using the Valk armour, as contrary as that sounds. It just looks too...well, for one it's stupidly easily to mimic. And Battle Maiden also uses it. So, having them be exact cookie-cutter clones kinda feels wrong for two distinct characters, especially since GR moved away from that.
Synapse actually looks quite decent as he is, except for needing higher quality textures. Luminary also should have unique parts, not just Praet Clockwork parts. It feels like a really quick cheat, when by rights she should look totally distinct from anything Praetorian (she came first, after all)
Your proposed Swan looks damn nice, though. Curren Swan just....ech. Yeah XD
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I thought I'd have a crack at a Valkyrie Redux. The thing to remember is she wears a nanite power armour. So it needs to be techy, so I used the Alpha pieces as a base. However, it also needs to reflect the Norse influence too. The Valkyrie pieces do just that.
After that it was just a case of colour schemes. I prefer the 2nd version as the lighter gold really pops against the darker gold and black.
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Get your stinkin' paws off of my Swan. Touch a thread on her cossie and I'll cut ya. I'll cut ya deep f00!
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Get your stinkin' paws off of my Swan. Touch a thread on her cossie and I'll cut ya. I'll cut ya deep f00!
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I like Angelxman81's Lum and Synapse, and OminousVoice's Valk. Going to be nice and not mention what I think of all the other submissions :P
I'd love for the devs to update old npc's, but I really don't want them to use costumer creations. I just don't want to fight/talk to a npc and think "Oh, there's so-and-so-forum goer's idea".
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I like Angelxman81's Lum and Synapse, and OminousVoice's Valk. Going to be nice and not mention what I think of all the other submissions :P
I'd love for the devs to update old npc's, but I really don't want them to use costumer creations. I just don't want to fight/talk to a npc and think "Oh, there's so-and-so-forum goer's idea". |
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I like the feathery short cape on the current Swan, I wouldnt touch that. The costume and hair could use some changes though. She definitely needs to be rendered at high res. Also, her skin needs to be darkened just a bit, so that her white costume has more contrast.
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I think the only nitpicks I have with Statesman's costume is that his cape looks tacked on and unnecessary, and the mask thing has always looked stupid. Remove the cape and put on a real helmet and I'd like it.