Valkyrie Redesign

Because she looks awful. Really.

Old and then new;

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

I agree she looks awful. I like the one you made

Easily one of the worst dressed contacts in game. I really wish they'd find someone new who's good at the costume creator and just let them redo every contact in the game.

Heck, I'd do it for free, just because I can't stand looking at some of the old contacts/trainers...Luminary, anyone?

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

And I guarantee there'd be people on the forums within minutes of any such update going live, complaining 'They looked good before, why'd you change it?! Change it back!', etc etc. Costumes both on npcs and on players are pretty subjective at the best of times, look at the outcome of any costume contest to see. 99% of the time you'll find a few people wondering how something that ugly won.

Not that that's a reason to not do it, some of the npcs in this game look petty dated by now. And come to think of it, did Luminary get all shiny when ultra mode came in? I can't recall, but the player version of the pieces she uses did.

I think you'd be preeetty hard pressed to find anyone who thinks any of the Phalanx, bar States, Positron and Manticore, don't need a re-haul. And even they could use an HD render pass.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

I can't change the thread, but I figured, hey, may as well try and do some more.

So far, Sister Psyche;

In Game;


Which...looks nothing like her actual character renders!



And the other which I think should be the new official model for her;



So, I went into CC and, guess what? The reason she looks so bad is due to using base-pieces only. You can't *make* that two tone top. So I had to photoshop it.



Not 100% happy with it, I didn't fix the waist from default size and the green's wrong, but at least it's a *bit* closer to her proper look. Honestly, I'd much rather she got given a fully unique model. I mean, hello? Anyone taken a look at Mirror Spirit lately? The tech to make them look good IS in game. It's totally possible; so why not do it? Whats the logic behind not doing it? I'm willing to bet there isn't any!

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

I think there should be redesigns for all the old heroes.
They are 8 years ago, and using old low res pieces, most of the avalaible for characters.
Compare Sister Psyche with Mother Mayhem...
Some like Black Swan and Bobcat could have been better or more unique, but they still look so much better than the Primals counterparts.
If the devs dont want to create new unique pieces and dont have time or resources, why not a costume redesign contest so they can choose new looks for Primal heroes? They did something like that for Manticore in the past I think.
Same for NPCs contacts, like Azuria or City representative, cant believe they still looking that awful today...
My take on some of them, Valkyrie included:









I wanted to keep it iconic, but simple and modern at same time.

Ms. Liberty;

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Proposed;



More photoshopping was needed, boots and gloves looked better on PS. Basically the Justice gloves and boots but with three colours, or something that matches her shoulder plate and belt.

I mean, really Libby? Doing martial arts in nothing but a skirt? Not exactly...y'know...dignified? Worthy of respect? And you wonder why no one takes you seriously....eesh.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Pretty much every member of the Vindicators and the Phalanx needs to be revamped. They've worn the same clothes for 7 years and it all really shows it's age.

Luminary;

Now:



Proposed:



Pleased with this one. No shopping needed. And I managed to only use two Praet pieces, simply because they look much nicer than old pieces. And, c'mon, she should have a more humanoid face by now.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Nice redesigns Techbot.
But I would love if the devs would come with complete awesome revamped looks like they did with Praetorians instead changing a very old piece for a not that old piece, and keeping a very old piece like face or hair for example.
Even if that makes me want the new models costume pieces.
I mean, compare new Nightstar with Luminary...

My take on Psyche:





The new Luminary:

Oh, man...
Foreshadow and Mirror Spirit are my favourite trainers blue side.
They are out of this world. I always wanted to have that level of quality for our characters, and its starting to show, even if is slowly with paid boosters.
Redside NPCs and AVs are good too, I love Scirocco's look Ghost Widow...
Praetorians, my favourite are Belladonna Vetrano, Nightstar, Mother Mayhem, Neuron and Noble Savage.
Maelstrom and Desdemona are awesome too.
But the heroes gallery, Freedom Phalanx and Vindicators are running jokes.

Techbot's Valkyrie is amazing. (And you used the Valkyrie boots, but why not the Valkyrie belt? Did it end up looking bad?) Also, don't change the shoulders to Valkyrie "just because" (re:LittleDavid/Valkyrie set) - I like what you chose! Only change it if it actually looks better.

I'm not sure changing the gloves really does anything for Ms. Liberty. She may need a more extensive redesign.

Techbot's Luminary is better, but still falls short of the new Nightstar. I'm not sure she should use a proper human-looking face. Maybe the cyborg faceplate and jaw would be better, if it can work with that helmet?

Love Hercules' Sister Psyche. She doesn't need to be showing off skin to look good! And using a metallic base made it awesome.

Every time I think I know what the costume creator is capable of, someone takes it to the next level!

I must say, I do approve of many of these redesigns for signature NPCs.
Though in Sister Psyche's case, I would suggest that, if they were more colorable, to use the female gloves option in the Steampunk booster.

Also, I myself have thought Statesman could use a slight touch up, I've always thought he might due a bit better with some boots, gloves, and a full Spartan helmet to better capture his "Grecophilia" as well as the concept that he's kind of an old soldier.
It's enough that I would also like to see him with a shield to match but that's just me. (I mean he's the leader of the Freedom Phalanx)

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