I am not appreciating the Trial Grind


Airhammer

 

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I wrote an extremely long, fairly even minded post on this subject, followed by a few embaressing outbursts. After thinking on it I decided the most mature path was to sign up for a new MMO. When I learned about the "Freedom" edition it was a bit of a surprise because I had mainly come here to temporarily freeze my account until this system shakes itself out.

To paraphrase what I've said before in my more lucid moments: the trials themselves are well designed but I dislike the reward structure immensely. Some people said it's only a grind if you make it one. I agree to an extent. And that's why I'm no longer playing them. While I can still play the old content, I had my hat hung on the new stuff. Despite what some people have suggested, there is no moral failing in leaving a game that frustrates you. Thankfully the Freedom change will mean some friends of mine who have long had their eye on this game will finally be willing to play.

I will also repeat that I take a dim view of people suggesting that anyone who dislikes repeating the same content over and over is just greedy. Desiring a path to rewards that is fun and engaging is not the same as greed. The more personally offensive argument about people just "not understanding the math of randomness" has thankfully not reared its head in this discussion. Regardless, I will throw it in there that "randomness" in a system that disallows trade is the same as "intentional unfairness" and shouldn't be a surprise that some people dislike it.


 

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My experience has been rather unpleasant with the system but I am willing to see if they solve the issues.. right now on Virtue it seems as if everyone is tired of it already.. COuld be however a lot of people are in Beta..


The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.

If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-

 

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As far as, we're probably not going to face Cole until we've defeated all his praetors, that essentially leaves Mother Mayhem and Chimera (assuming Neuron doesen't get his own trial, since he's in Tin Mage Mk II)

So AT LEASt two more trials before Cole, after the ones we know are coming.

And that's disregarding the praetorians who aren't praetors: Marchand, Black Swan, Diabolique, Infernal, etc.

I think we're looking at a minimum of two more trials after the ones we now know off (and probably three, a magic-focused one with Diabolique/Infernal in it) before we get to fight the Emperor.


"Men strunt �r strunt och snus �r snus
om ock i gyllne dosor.
Och rosor i ett sprucket krus
�r st�ndigt alltid rosor."

 

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
I guess my repeatedly saying "I would pay for this!" was not landing on deaf ears. That's not quite what I had in mind, however, not to this extent anyway.

But, yes, unlocking this with some of the FREE Paragon Points (we need a better name for this) that VIPs get would be a good compromise, provided I don't need all 400 and then some just to unlock I21 features.
If Incarnate components are sold for Paragon Points, you'll need more than 400


@Golden Girl

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If Incarnate components are sold for Paragon Points, you'll need more than 400
As much as I cannot stand the current reward system.. I dont think we should be able to buy them this way..


The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.

If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-

 

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As much as I cannot stand the current reward system.. I dont think we should be able to buy them this way..
I agree. "Pay to win" models are not something that's pleasant to play in. People shouldn't be allowed to buy their way to the top.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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Donald Trump disagrees.


 

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Because I want to team with Donald Trump on a Sewer Trial?


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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If Incarnate components are sold for Paragon Points, you'll need more than 400
I believe the idea is that some of the other things coming - the "Incarnate" auras, costumes, etc. - will be purchasable with Paragon Points, not the Incarnate abilities themselves. So you can choose to save your merits to buy abilities, and use Points to buy the others, or you can play twice as much and buy it all with merits.