Peacebringers, why?

Please.. They just look so cool and I love the concept so much. Energy beings from space! Transformations! Flexible! Energy eye beams!

But they are just so underwhelming mechanically. They just don't deal damage, and they just get mezzed so easily. They have endurance problems, they bring crazy AoE KB and additional badguys to a team, and I could handle that if they could actually contribute. But although they're dependant on teaming not to be total fail, they don't bring much good to a team.

I've really tried, but they're just not as fun as they should be,

My personal straightforward wish:
1.) Make Nova and Dwarf just toggles, with only the travel powers given extra. Nova reduces resistance and ups damage, but disables melee attacks. Dwarf reduces damage, ups resistance, adds a taunt aura, but disables blasts.

2.) Make Mez protection as part of the Thermal and/or Quantum Shield.

3.) Just up the damage on the blasts especially. There's no need to be scared of a ranged damage dealer with a shield, we have them already.

(I'll be extra grateful if those toggles were cossie optional, but I understand the tech might not be there for that.)

If the end result is that we're as powerful as we are now on full teams, even when solo, I'd be happy. Then we can change the inherent to something else, like instead of buffing ourselves, giving those buffs to nearby allies.

Please?

Yes, Peacebringers underperform solo. You're a little late to the party on that one.

One of our problems, though, is the inherent.

I encourage you to read those topics and then offer your own suggestions.

Why should Kheldians get mez protection? They have a form that protects them from mez should they chose to use it ( and I have an all human one ).

Blasters dont get Mez protection. Most defenders and corruptors do not. Controllers do not. Most MM's do not either. All you need is some break free's and Mez is no longer an issue.

Upping the damage would be an issue because in teams you would become overpowered. Then what happens when you figure IO's and Incarnate abilities as well.

My all human PB already has two shields, two self heals, a god mode, and ability to mez minions and sometimes LT's and a self rez... And I use IO's which gives me another 15% damage buff and the Musculature Alpha Slot.

I dont see them making any of the changes you suggested.. I agree that PB's need some love.. I just dont think thats the love they will get...

The mez itself isn't a big issue to me, if we could happily stay back and blast, or we had AoE mez of our own that was worth taking (I'm really not saying we need those things). But my most powerful attacks are melee, so... I'd be happy with high mez resistance too, to be honest, or low mez protection (as with SoA).

Techbot while I agree with your premise I dont believe the AT needs mez protection. I play plenty of AT's that dont have mez protection and I play just fine. My personal opinion about mez protection is this..

Oftentimes people start playing the game as a scrapper, brute or tank.. high defenses high to moderate damage. They have no idea how much mez exists in the game.. They get to 50.. they play a Kheldian.. oh crap... there is so much mez in the game.... I hate this... these things need mez protection...

Now I will admit I started playing a blaster. I played him to 50.. I found out very quickly what mezzed and how.. and what to take out first.. and that was BEFORE break free's even existed and there was no such thing as defiance in ANY form...

Again I play an all human PB... and the mez doesnt bother me.. Ive learned how to deal with it and work around it. And I dont think tyhe devs are going to add Mez protection to the non Dwarf forms.. I agree they need to do something about the switch into the form.

Not disagreeing with that, Air. I'm just saying, if Dwarf form and such are meant to be a mez shield, then they should 100% WORK as one, not fail when we need them most. That entirely defeats their point if that happens. And it DOES happen.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

I did already read those threads btw, but cheers for linking them. But ya know, my feelings and opinions are important to me at least, and I wanted to vent.

The base damage modifiers could use a slight boost. Right now PBs do the equivalent of Tanker melee damage with their ranged attacks (0.800 modifier). For an AT whose primary method of contribution is damage that's not too good. Melee damage is better but not by much (0.850 modifier). An increase to 0.900 melee and 0.850 ranged would put them solidly in the middle of the pack for damage oriented ATs even when forms are taken into account. That being said, the claim that Peacebringers do piddling damage is total garbage.

As for forms, there are a lot of good suggestions out there. But the only one that really seems necessary is shortening the activation time on Dwarf's effects (Making them instant would be great). Since the I13 changes Dwarf is simply too important to the Kheldian playstyle to suffer from the issues it does. Getting killed while trying to shift into Dwarf happens more than every once in a while, particularly when you're solo. Keep the animation time at 3s but make the mezz protection and damage resistance instant. There are toggles that already do this (Indomitable Will comes to mind) so the technology is already there.

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Originally Posted by oreso I did already read those threads btw, but cheers for linking them. But ya know, my feelings and opinions are important to me at least, and I wanted to vent.

That's cool and feel free to do so. But there's some real momentum going here on the Kheldian boards for another round of Peacebringer changes. We're all in the middle of a debate about what would be best for 'em. So understand if opinions that don't come with empirical evidence aren't as welcome.

Honestly, the work that you guys have already put in, over the span of -years- to convince the devs that they need attention, well, maybe those threads will finally do it, but...

I have no real suggestions to make to PBs to improve them per se (except to note than when I play my PB -- who is a lot of fun, mind you -- she basically just feels like a sub-par blaster, scrapper and tank all rolled into one without any real strengths or differences from other ATs like the WSs have).

I would, however, like to see a buff to Cosmic Balance to basically "reflect" all or part of the buffs that the team gives the kheld back to the team, thus making them more desirable and a force multiplier in their own right. It's probably debatable whether a WS would need that change too, although I find it difficult to justify lore-wise that one would have it and the other doesn't.

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