Quote:
OK, good to hear.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
And Vancouver should have been called on those as well. I'm not saying "stick it to the Bruins only." I'm saying that the rules should be enforced, no matter who is at fault.
|
My argument would be, given that the calls (or non-calls) were relatively balanced, skill should have had the opportunity. This year, in this series, Boston got it. I like Vancouver's core. They'll get another shot.
City of Heroes was my first MMO, & my favorite computer game.
R.I.P.
Chyll - Bydand - Violynce - Enyrgos - Rylle - Nephryte - Solyd - Fettyr - Hyposhock - Styrling - Beryllos - Rosyc
Horryd - Myriam - Dysquiet - Ghyr
Vanysh - Eldrytch
Inflyct - Mysron - Orphyn - Dysmay - Reapyr - - Wyldeman - Hydeous
That game was depressing to watch. My team looked totally gassed and the Bruins looked like they could play for another month *sigh*. Ah well, there is always next year I guess.
And as a local resident and father of 3 kids let me just say that the actions of a few should not be used to paint us all as a bunch of idiots and d-bags. There were estimated to be 100,000 people in the downtown core for the game. Out of that about 1% of the crowd got fricking stupid, but that's still 1000. I just try to remind myself that 99,000 other people were downtown to enjoy such a rare moment as game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final on home soil.
What really makes me laugh is that all those idiots and Black Bloc members were caught on camera and smart-phone and video doing all the damage. There are now a number of Facebook pages set up with all those pics asking the public to help ID and catch these losers *crosses fingers*. I would like to use that as a counter-argument to anyone that calls Canucks fans the worst fans in hockey.
And one final thought:
Go Canucks Go!
My 50s:
Prime Minister MA/SR Scrap - Protector
Captain Hit-Guy DM/Reg Scrap - Freedom
Prime-Minister ILL/TA Troller - Freedom
Ultimate Minister Inv/SS Tanker - Freedom
Quote:
Not sure why they booed Buttman???? Are you serious??? It is obvious you're not a die-hard hockey fan. Buttplug has been bad for the game. The only reason he is around is because of his awful little deals to get the owners money. Their stupidity hasn't allowed them to see how they are ruining the actual product. I am happy to see the little gnomes schemes blow up in his face recently (multiple teams in the assistance program which causes clubs to subsidize the troubled franchises; adding a lot of teams to non-hockey markets; all but being forced to move a team back to Canada and will likely have to move more up here because of the struggling U.S. economy etc etc etc). Make no mistake about it, my furry little friend, Gary Buttgoblin is one of the most despised people in the NHL when it comes to the opinion of true NHL fans.|
Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Not sure why Canucks fans are booing Bettman, but it's pretty classless. Be a graceful loser, gang. I'd be embarrassed if that were my team.
Congrats, Boston. You wanted it more in the last two games. |
You will also notice most of the fans stayed in the stadium and cheered for the Bruins, Tim Thomas etc. We know our hockey and have very good fans.
On that note, I hope people read about these disgusting riots. It is sad and if you read the reports you will see the riots were started by 'professional rioters'. They have already been identified as the same anarchist group that tried to start up trouble at the 2010 Olympics. Unfortunately, mob mentality took over and a lot of others joined the chaos. The whole thing literally brought a tear to my eye.
The police and emergency services did a great job but when you have 100 000 people in a small, insulated area it is tough to get involved. This is an amazing city and I have no idea why we're targeted by these idiots. Multiple reports indicate they saw people heading downtown with signs reading: welcome to the 2011 Riots.
It was a great year for the Canucks and it is awful we had to finish it on this type of note.
Quote:
Unfortunately, in the NHL, the refs call the playoffs differently than the regular season. This is obvious. I think many Canucks fans are frustrated because the refs 'let them play'. This type of reffing favors the larger Bruins team. We all knew this going in and unfortunately it happened again. I don't think the NHL will fix this. I also think Boychuk should have been suspended for the hit on Raymond. It was an illegal hit and caused a major injury; the NHL has set a precedent on handing out punishments based on injuries.|
Originally Posted by Chyll
OK, good to hear.
My argument would be, given that the calls (or non-calls) were relatively balanced, skill should have had the opportunity. This year, in this series, Boston got it. I like Vancouver's core. They'll get another shot. |
The Canucks are a skilled team with some size and grit. Injuries got to us, we lost some of our better players, overplayed our core and then the larger Bruins team wore us down in the finals. Not a huge shock. That's the NHL. That is why the Stanley Cup is the toughest trophy to win in all of sports.
Capt and Jaz, I'm glad to see some reasoned responses from the Vancouver side.
I certainly can relate to the disappointment of losing a championship after a great regular season run (see 2008 Super Bowl). You absolutely have the raw skills to win a championship and now your team has seen what being in the championship is like and that can provide a great learning opportunity for the next go-round.
Global = Hedgefund (or some derivation thereof)
LOL at blaming the officials considering the HUGE goal differential throughout the entire series (barring the first two games in montreal)
It would be one thing if a single goal determined the outcome of the series and it was surrounded by a series of bad calls... But let's get real here.
Quote:
Are you commenting on my post just above? I really hope not cuz if you are, you may want to learn how to read |
Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
LOL at blaming the officials considering the HUGE goal differential throughout the entire series (barring the first two games in montreal)
It would be one thing if a single goal determined the outcome of the series and it was surrounded by a series of bad calls... But let's get real here. |
I didn't blame the refs. The NHL playoffs are officiated differently than the regular season. It is unfortunate because the playoff games can often become a grind and it isn't as fun to watch. Playoff time gets a lot of exposure but the games aren't all that entertaining so I would prefer to see the same officiating all season long and not have a different version in the playoffs. It would result in a much better product
Quote:
This, in a nutshell.
|
Originally Posted by TheJazMan
Playoff time gets a lot of exposure but the games aren't all that entertaining so I would prefer to see the same officiating all season long and not have a different version in the playoffs. It would result in a much better product
|
Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters
Quote:
I respectfully disagree. I enjoy playoff hockey much more than regular season hockey. IMO it is where the marginal and worse teams have been left behind, and play is elevated to the cream of the crop.|
Originally Posted by TheJazMan
Playoff time gets a lot of exposure but the games aren't all that entertaining so I would prefer to see the same officiating all season long and not have a different version in the playoffs. It would result in a much better product
|
I enjoy the game much more when it is allowed to be physical and not interrupted as much. That is just my personal preference though, to each their own.
Make a man a fire and keep him warm for the day, SET a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of his life.
Incarnates: K'lir(Fire/Dark Corr):Hot-House Flower(Plant/Fire Dom):Kinrad X(Kin/Rad Def):Itsy-Bitsy Spider(Crab):Two Ton Tony(Mace/WP Broot):Teeny Weeny Widow(Fortunata/Widow) : Zeroth Law (Ice/Fire Tank)
Quote:
Not to speak on 2-head boy's account, but he wasn't referring to you. There is a laughable claim on this thread that reffing would have made a difference in 4 games with a 21-4 margin, but you didn't make it.
|
Originally Posted by TheJazMan
Are you commenting on my post just above? I really hope not cuz if you are, you may want to learn how to read
I didn't blame the refs. The NHL playoffs are officiated differently than the regular season. It is unfortunate because the playoff games can often become a grind and it isn't as fun to watch. Playoff time gets a lot of exposure but the games aren't all that entertaining so I would prefer to see the same officiating all season long and not have a different version in the playoffs. It would result in a much better product |
Global = Hedgefund (or some derivation thereof)
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kinrad
I respectfully disagree. I enjoy playoff hockey much more than regular season hockey. IMO it is where the marginal and worse teams have been left behind, and play is elevated to the cream of the crop.
I enjoy the game much more when it is allowed to be physical and not interrupted as much. That is just my personal preference though, to each their own. |
Power plays can make for some pretty exciting hockey. Besides that, some teams are very good at power plays and some teams are not. A good power play is an asset and the refs should never be allowed to negate the assets of the players on the ice. Putting the whistle away favours the team with the weaker power play. The games should be called according to the rulebook. It isn't pro wrestling.
That said, Vancouver's power play was not an asset in the final round
Jer
Quote:
In review, I don't think it would have but the refs inconsistency drives many fans crazy. The NHL made efforts to get rid of the clutch, grab etc in the 90's. For some reason it has crept back into the playoffs. The Bruins knew this and used it and it threw some Canucks off their game. It is too bad because hockey can be a beautiful thing to watch. The playoff version is good but a high speed, free wheeling gaming with skill is amazing |
Originally Posted by Deacon_NA
Not to speak on 2-head boy's account, but he wasn't referring to you. There is a laughable claim on this thread that reffing would have made a difference in 4 games with a 21-4 margin, but you didn't make it.
|
I think the Canucks had a very good chance to win the Cup in game 6. They played well and had Thomas somewhat figured out. Unfortunately, Roberto let almost anything beat him and that killed us.
Championships in any sport are not won by who has the most skill. Otherwise we could have just had a fantasy draft and declared Vancouver the winner without even needing the playoffs.
No, championships are won by displaying some toughness and a desire to win. The Miami Heat were unable to win an NBA championship because they did not possess this toughness. Heck, even my New England Patriots lost their last playoff game to a "lesser" team that played tougher.
Vancouver simply does not have this characteristic. This isn't video game hockey, this is 6 men getting on the ice to defeat 6 other men that have exactly the same objective - to win the highest stakes event in their league. Part of that is to gain whatever type of advantages they can, physically, psychologically... If Vancouver thinks they can just get on the ice and "outskill" the opponents, I'll say right now they will never win a Stanley Cup (not a bold statement, I know, given their history).
Luongo needs to not care that Tim Thomas isn't "pumping his tires". I could go on with many other things that made me say "what? there's no way this team can win a championship". I was proven right.
Global = Hedgefund (or some derivation thereof)