Rise of the Planet of the Apes
This looks interesting, and certainly better than the Wahlberg/Burton mess several years ago.
My guess... Caeser and company not only use the "uplift gas" to become smarter, but that sometime in the movie the "stoopid hoomans" come up with a "downfall gas" which gets used on them, thus making them the primitives we see in the earlier films.
It's 106 miles to Grandville, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing faceless helmets
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James Franco has a terrific screen presence. I think the film has real potential to reinvigorate the franchise. Now, add zombie apes to the mix...we have a real winner.
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Zombie apes that travel back in time to over throw hitler and take over the world as Nazi Zombie Apes? Perhaps they invade japan and learn the art of the Ninja? Ninja Nazi Zombies Apes. And what if they were then forced to retreat to their secret antartic base and take a rocket to the moon? Ninja Nazi Zombie Apes from the Moon! Or only defense, mutated flowers from space that shoot deadly peas!
James Franco has a terrific screen presence. I think the film has real potential to reinvigorate the franchise. Now, add zombie apes to the mix...we have a real winner.
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I'd see that Movie. It'd be "Rise of the Iron Sky Moon planet of the Ninja Assasin Apes.
Coming soon to a theatre near you!
(sorry, haven't had my caffeine yet this morning.)
EDIT: In the Sequel they come back with the power to transform.
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Apes were already being used for mass labor for humans were they not? that scenario was more plausible than this one.
Also, there's no way the original movie could make more sense. I mean, c'mon, where the hell did Taylor think he was, anyway? A bunch of apes with Christian names running around speaking English? I don't care what you told your fellow travelers, that's not Alpha Centauri, Bright Eyes.
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Even if Apes were killing humans 10 to 1, there's a massive difference in numbers. A typical major city has millions of humans...a typical city has may be 500-1000 primates...whatever it is it's an insignifigant figure. Even General Custer could win this war.
The article touches on this. The makers are aware that humanity as it is can't be taken down. Their reasoning is that if you remove some key advantages we have, we won't be that unstoppable. I'm assuming the apes will be aiming for that. Number of apes vs numbers of humans advamtage is another thing I'm interested in seeing how it's balanced out. |
It would take a heck of a plot device(or plot induced stupidity) to fix this numbers game. Guns are the grand equalizer, as bullets still kill monkeys despite them being physically superior to us. You don't need high end technology to beat him (despite I don't think an army of apes could do jack against the national guard in tanks and helicopters.), so this just makes me laugh.
It might be a decent film but I'd probably need turn off the logic center of my brain completely to enjoy it as something about a bunch of apes beating us up makes me roll my eyes.
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This is actually what gets me. Seeing as how you see posters all the time go "it's not realistic"
Even if Apes were killing humans 10 to 1, there's a massive difference in numbers. A typical major city has millions of humans...a typical city has may be 500-1000 primates...whatever it is it's an insignifigant figure. Even General Custer could win this war.
It would take a heck of a plot device(or plot induced stupidity) to fix this numbers game. Guns are the grand equalizer, as bullets still kill monkeys despite them being physically superior to us. You don't need high end technology to beat him (despite I don't think an army of apes could do jack against the national guard in tanks and helicopters.), so this just makes me laugh. It might be a decent film but I'd probably need turn off the logic center of my brain completely to enjoy it as something about a bunch of apes beating us up makes me roll my eyes. |
So far, I don't see any way gorillas could realistically take over the world, when it's billions versus an endargered species.
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Maybe Caesar uses his really big brain to create a virus that makes people dumber. That would work. The US and USSR (and presumably other countries) developed chemical weapons which work on specific populations due to unique mutations in various parts of the world. There was a milk-based one that the Chinese were susceptible to, but the details escape me.
This is actually what gets me. Seeing as how you see posters all the time go "it's not realistic"
So far, I don't see any way gorillas could realistically take over the world, when it's billions versus an endargered species. |
In an article in Sports Illustrated (of all places), a geneticist mentioned how there is more genetic variety within a single group of Africans than in the rest of the world. He joked that on the DNA level, everyone else looks alike. (Turning the racist jab on its head.) So if you can find a weakness that a particular population shares that you don't, you can effectively wipe them out due their inherent similarity.
This is all academic. I doubt the movie will go into anything like this. I don't care -- monkeys with machine guns is plenty for me!
Edit: found the quote in my archives.
“Genetic variability – differences in DNA among people – is greater among Africans within a single population than among people from different continents outside Africa. … In fact, the further a group of native people is from Africa, the less genetically diverse it tends to be. In some sections of DNA, [geneticist Kenneth] Kidd says, there is more variation within a single African Pygmy population than in the entire rest of the world combined. “In that sense,” Kidd says, “I like to say that all Europeans look alike.”
– David Epstein, “Sports Genes,” Sports Illustrated, May 17, 2010
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supposed spoilers have hinted at that being the possible ending...which made doubters groan even louder for predictability reasons.
Maybe Caesar uses his really big brain to create a virus that makes people dumber. That would work.
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for myself...I just don't know. I somehow manage Bayformers...but not what's possibly happening here.
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Well in the original Planet of the apes, the world was post apocolyptic, destroyed by nukes, big explosions etc.
This is actually what gets me. Seeing as how you see posters all the time go "it's not realistic"
So far, I don't see any way gorillas could realistically take over the world, when it's billions versus an endargered species. |
So all the apes have to do is sneak into a place where there is a big red button. We already trained them to push buttons...
Then find a way to survive nuclear winter. I'm sure there could be a plot device for this. But consider this.. Monkeys have essentially 4 hands. They can hold 4 guns at once while hanging from a tree....
We have weapons, but that doesn't mean they couldn't use them if they were super smart.
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Even if Apes were killing humans 10 to 1, there's a massive difference in numbers. A typical major city has millions of humans...a typical city has may be 500-1000 primates...whatever it is it's an insignifigant figure. Even General Custer could win this war.
It would take a heck of a plot device(or plot induced stupidity) to fix this numbers game. Guns are the grand equalizer, as bullets still kill monkeys despite them being physically superior to us. You don't need high end technology to beat him (despite I don't think an army of apes could do jack against the national guard in tanks and helicopters.), so this just makes me laugh. It might be a decent film but I'd probably need turn off the logic center of my brain completely to enjoy it as something about a bunch of apes beating us up makes me roll my eyes. Probably applies to this one too heh. |
Yeah, I bet Belgium has a higher population than all the large primates left on the planet. This is so far from a reasonable fight as to make it laughable. The trailer had a scene in it with chimps armed with spears. Was I supposed to be impressed or laugh?
I'll be skipping the movie.
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I called it!
supposed spoilers have hinted at that being the possible ending...which made doubters groan even louder for predictability reasons.
for myself...I just don't know. I somehow manage Bayformers...but not what's possibly happening here. |
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My guess... Caeser and company not only use the "uplift gas" to become smarter, but that sometime in the movie the "stoopid hoomans" come up with a "downfall gas" which gets used on them, thus making them the primitives we see in the earlier films. |
It's 106 miles to Grandville, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing faceless helmets
... Hit it ...
... Hit it ...
unless the drug they exposed Caesar to is a virus, they'll have to keep making more to expose newborn apes/chimps/etc to.
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