Ice Defender not a buffer?

Ice is a buffer although it's a debuffer as well. I would never kick a Cold defender. I would kick somebody else to make room for a Cold defender if I were a power set elitist. Stupidity happens on all servers. Freedom is my main server for 5+ years and have yet to experience even remotely what gets talked on here about Freedom. Some of the best and most knowledgeable people on the forum play on Freedom as well. Anybody who kicks somebody due to their power sets isn't worth playing with.

It was Freedom, what do you expect. Yes an Ice Defender is a buffer.

^This.

And totally this. And I say that as someone who's been playing on Freedom for 3+ years.

The issue isnt whether Ice has buffs.. Its that it doesnt have the buff that many people are looking for which is Heals.. RA's and Kinetics..

Look, when someone doesnt want you on a team because you dont fit their ideal.. I usually count myself lucky as not being on that team.. I have found 90% of the time that I just missed out on being on TEAM STUPID that doesnt work together a a team, dies a lot and is looking for buffs to overcome their stupidity.. As I always say.. you cant heal stupid...

I got on a team once that said they were looking for a defender.. So I joined with my Rad/Rad.. I get YAY DEFENDER.. ok no more dying ( that was a bad sign right there)

they were fighting some +3's so Im laying down the debuffs on the mobs and attacking..and we are starting to plow through them... but we are taking some damage ( although no had died since i joined the team )and the team leader screams at me..

STOP ATTACKING JUST HEAL... I said well I have a lot of debuffs and... again the team STOP ATTACKING JUST HEAL...

So I stopped attacking... and just threw out my very small AoE Heal...

and the team died... everyone said wait what happened.. we were doing good..

I said.. Oh well that was my fault..

See I had Radiation Infection which is a 50% defense debuff and a 48% to hit debuff.. but I shut that off so I could just heal like the leader said.

Then I had Enervating Field running which brought their reistance down 30% and brought their damage down 25% but I shut that off so I could heal..

Oh yeah and then I was using Lingering Radiation cut their regen 500% and theire recharge rate 25% but i stopped doing that so I could heal...

And I stopped using Irradiate which is another 50% defense debuff in an area and Neutron Bomb which is another 25% defense debuff in an area bcause I was told STOP ATTACKING JUST HEAL...

OH and I stopped dropping Accelerate Metabolism which was buffing your damage 30% and yor recharge 25% well because its not a heal and I was told JUST HEAL...

So wait classic here.. someone asks for the star so they can invite a friend.. and the leader was kicked LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AWESOME. I wish they all turned out that well...

I'll safely assume my being a SG founder helped in dealing with such people. Everybody assumed I would lead all things and I pretty much did. This meant it has been rare I have ever been on a team on Freedom and not been the lead, nor not been playing with friends.

I'm not an SG Leader (I have my personal SG for storage but that's it). But I tend to heavily gravitate towards your behaviour. I almost always running with my friends. Most of the time I'm leading but I don't have a problem running with teams that I'm familiar with the leader. I tend to run my own TFs/Trials. When I'm forced to PuG, I give instructions as needed, but I've learned that reading can be rather really hard for some people so following simple instructions is not possible. I have been hesitant about it for years now. But in the past few months I have made point that after telling a certain someone to do something (like don't aggro the AV yet in the trials) and they still insist on ignoring me even after repeatedly saying it in Team Chat/tells I will make much use of my Shiney Star and kick them, after I one stared them of course.

Funnily enough, I've been playing on Union lately, and I have had absolutely no problem running with PuGs. Even funnier, I've been playing for an average of 4 hours a day on Union, running with at least 2-3 different PuG groups a day, and I have so far only met exactly two people I've rated less than 3 stars.

<sigh> I love Ice shields. Not getting hit is a good thing. Admittedly the HP boost is potentially worthless for about half the ATs (because they can self-cap their HP) but not everyone has the HP accolades and IO bonuses so even there it can help, and ultimately who cares? You have the shields, which means we aren't getting hit near as often. The fact that you can also debuff tough mobs into near worthlessness doesn't exactly hurt either...

I guess they wanted a heavy buff character like an Empath or Thermal, or maybe they just wanted Speed Boost. But on the bright side, at least you didn't have to team with them. I guess I've just been lucky but at least on Virtue I don't see much of that sort of powerset snobbery... heck, they even let Stalkers on teams there!

I consider Cold Domination to be both a Buffer and a Debuffer.

Except for Empathy and Trick Arrow all of the Buff/Debuff sets include both buffs and debuffs but Cold Domination is the set I feel comes closest to straddling the half-way point. So, yeah, I'm always happy to have a Cold Dom on my team.

That leader is retarded. I will take /Cold over any other so-called Buffer. At lvl 46, you have all the good powers.

/Cold is so good because it's both a buffer and an excellent debuffer.

HAHAHA epic!

+1 internet for you!

I am laughing, even while I disapprove.

Cool story bro.

I don't really believe it happened. But wouldn't it be just ideal if it did?

I agree with the message/lesson of the story though.

Sounds like something i would have done. If they want heals, dangit i will give them what they want! But if they want me to contribute to the team, then i gladly will! :P

Kudos for such an amazing situation

Hmm...I- Nah. We- Mm...Nevermind.

Sorry you had a bad experience- as someone else pointed out, be glad you were released quickly and suffered no further headache from that team. Sometimes the short term sting of rejection proves to be the best form of protection.

I will be glad when people stop looking down their noses at one another based on what servers we play on. There are good players and bad players on every server. Just because a person plays on a less populated server does not mean you are a better player than anyone else. OP, this isn't really directed at you personally, but I am just referring to the all too palpable sentiment that playing on Freedom is so frowned upon on the forums.

Now that is incorrect. If you love love teaming to the point that you start whining whenever you have to solo, and rp gives you hives, then I very much recommend Freedom. Whenever I run into people making fun of rp on Virtue, and ask "why would you come to a rp server?" and they say "because there were so many people here!", I recommend Freedom. God knows, my kid loves playing there. I used to have toons there before my kid deleted them all, believing it was *his* server.

But it *is* laggy and crowded.