Keyes Island on test?


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I haven't noticed any updates/patches to Beta since the whole Global Server Access/Test thing.


 

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I haven't noticed any updates/patches to Beta since the whole Global Server Access/Test thing.
That can only mean that they're rushing the Trial out, and it'll totally ruin the whole game forever.


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I'll be there to get the lowdown on it then running it nonstop again once it hits live


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Trust me, Anti-Matter's not a good guy. He might not be as outright villainous as some of the Praetors, but he's just as self-centered. For example,

(RESPONSIBILITY ARC SPOILERS)

in the climax of his arc, he finds out that an attack is planned on one of his reactors. The very first thing he thinks of is "will the other reactors be okay?" He assures you they will, then mentions that if one of them explodes it'll take out half of Praetoria. He's not even concerned about all the people that would kill.
Sounds like my kind of buddy...I'll have to go drinking with him sometime.


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One does not simply walk into Praetoria.
I recall walking through a portal in Pocket D to get there.


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Sounds like my kind of buddy...I'll have to go drinking with him sometime.
Drinking can be difficult when you're not used to bending your elbow much.


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Drinking can be difficult when you're not use to bending your elbow much.

Isnt that what those hats are made for?


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Isnt that what those hats are made for?
Straws work wonders too!


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How much do you want to bet that the trial won't present a plausible reason for characters who don't care about the people of Praetoria (like, um, villains) to not just blow up the reactors, putting an end to the Praetorian threat once and for all so we can get back to the more important business of taking over the world?


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One does not simply walk into Praetoria.
True. Instead, you teleport directly into secure military installations.


 

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How much do you want to bet that the trial won't present a plausible reason for characters who don't care about the people of Praetoria (like, um, villains) to not just blow up the reactors, putting an end to the Praetorian threat once and for all so we can get back to the more important business of taking over the world?
Well, you're not being forced to run the Trial - it's heroic content that you can choose to help with if you like, or you can go run an SF or something else that lets you twirl your moustache

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True. Instead, you teleport directly into secure military installations.
I think the word "secure" shouldn't really be used there


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Trust me, Anti-Matter's not a good guy.
SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY

It's got nothing to do with being a 'good guy' or a 'bad guy'. The whole of the Responsibility tract is about doing horrible things in the name of 'the greater good' of Praetoria and preserving the Empire.

Motivations for doing so vary from person to person as the various arcs demonstrate.


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He might not be as outright villainous as some of the Praetors, but he's just as self-centered. For example,

(RESPONSIBILITY ARC SPOILERS)

in the climax of his arc, he finds out that an attack is planned on one of his reactors. The very first thing he thinks of is "will the other reactors be okay?" He assures you they will, then mentions that if one of them explodes it'll take out half of Praetoria. He's not even concerned about all the people that would kill.
I don't deny he's motivated by ego, but consider that if the other reactors didn't survive the blast, all of Praetoria would be dead, either from the explosion or from the Sonic Barrier going down.

He's also thinking in terms of 'acceptable losses'. 50% of Praetoria in the scenario that your character fails is better than 100%.

Also consider that in Keyes own mind, his 'greatness' is being kept from helping Praetoria as much as it could be. Him not being a Praetor and being kept busy with a lot of side projects while Berry runs wild is damaging to the Empire.

He's in a Catch 22. Would he hurt the Empire to help it more? Maybe. But he won't take a hit to his own ego. The whole point of his arc finale was that he defied orders given to let Arachnos to destroy his creation. I still don't think he'd risk his baby by letting Berry fail publicly if he thought there was any possibility that the Primals could succeed.

Protecting Praetoria is his ticket back to Praetorship. The question is, has he lost sight of that goal in redoubling his efforts to discredit Berry? That would be his shift to the Power tract.


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I think the word "secure" shouldn't really be used there
I don't think anything should be labeled as 'secure' with Portal Technology at play . Unless/until portal interdiction starts to show up anyway .


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I still don't think he'd risk his baby by letting Berry fail publicly if he thought there was any possibility that the Primals could succeed.
But he's such an arrogant jerk he mightn't think it'd be possible for us to succeed and foil his plans.


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I wonder what we'll need to do to cripple the power supply for the portals without harming the sonic fences?
Since when do superheroes care about collateral damage to other dimensions?


 

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Since when do superheroes care about collateral damage to other dimensions?
Since we didn't teleport a few hundred nukes into Praetoria City after the first time they kidnapped Statesman


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I doubt they are going to do a Test on the same night they are doing a Praetorian Surge.


 

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I doubt they are going to do a Test on the same night they are doing a Praetorian Surge.
It's May 27th that the surge ends - the Test is scheduled for May 31st


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Totally missed that, just saw the "posted" date.


 

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Since we didn't teleport a few hundred nukes into Praetoria City after the first time they kidnapped Statesman
Well of course, that wouldn't be sporting.

Besides, we still had to rescue Statesman. Never mind that's he's a complete moron for falling for the same ruse, AGAIN, and getting kidnapped the second time, but I diverge...

On the other hand, their dependance on the sonic fences is their own doing, and that's not our responsibility. This is war after all.

Or as Batman would put it, we won't kill them, but we don't have to save them.


 

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im interested in the badges that will be in this trial, i hope to all that is good they dont do a repeat of the retarded lambda side badges


 

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Well of course, that wouldn't be sporting.

Besides, we still had to rescue Statesman.
And then teleport the nukes in once we get him out

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On the other hand, their dependance on the sonic fences is their own doing, and that's not our responsibility.
We're there to set the Praetorians - our war is with Tyrant, not with the people he's enslaved - that's why the Incarnate Trials have us attacking the various instruments of repression and conquest used by the dictatorship, and not randomly attacking everything and everyone in Praetoria City.

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This is war after all.
Which is no excuse to carry out war crimes.


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SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY

It's got nothing to do with being a 'good guy' or a 'bad guy'. The whole of the Responsibility tract is about doing horrible things in the name of 'the greater good' of Praetoria and preserving the Empire.

Motivations for doing so vary from person to person as the various arcs demonstrate.
I think you've been listening to too much Golden Girl. The only arc that's like that is Mother Mayhem's.


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