ageless destiny works like popping a blue insp with some side effects
you can use the ageless destiny with 0 current end and the tier 4 refills your bar completely
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Yes. There's no way to avoid the initial 100% end drain, which may or may not be a big deal to you depending on how much you rely on toggle powers. Also, even the highest +recovery buff from Ageless (+800%, if my numbers are correct) is still lower than the -1000% recovery debuff from the crash.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
ageless destiny works like popping a blue insp with some side effects
you can use the ageless destiny with 0 current end and the tier 4 refills your bar completely |
So "crashless" is a misnomer. Ageless will certainly help to mitigate the nuke crash, but it won't eliminate the crash altogether. All in all, I'd say the so-called crashless nuke thing is a bad reason to choose Ageless Destiny. If you have other compelling reasons to take Ageless, then sure, go nuts -- but if not, don't lose sleep over Ageless' effect on the nuke crash.
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
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You should be able to avoid the recovery crash as well, if you take the Radial Musculature Alpha for the extra EndMod.
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I use Ageless, but have not tried this trick, I definitely will though! My favorite trick in a big ugly spawn is as I see a brute/tank heading in, pop 2-3 reds, hit build up, and place myself center spawn, "Nuke", then pop a blue, and my End conserve power. This will make the recovery portion of that even better. (even less need for blues!) If my end is still hurting after Ageless, I can hit the End conserve. In fact, this will allow me to go center spawn, Ion, Nuke, Agelesss, AoEs for mop up. Always wanted to try that, and havent found a good opportunity yet. Not exactly Blapper, more Avatar of AoE Extreme damage.
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Crashless is possible just not with ageless alone. But it would depend on your builds total recovery rate before Ageless including any outside buffs you may have being combined with ageless. OP is a blaster but a defender or corruptor can self buff their recovery so that would help them with this... I guess a blaster could as well if they took that one psi power that I can't remember the name off at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Obitus
Yes. There's no way to avoid the initial 100% end drain, which may or may not be a big deal to you depending on how much you rely on toggle powers. Also, even the highest +recovery buff from Ageless (+800%, if my numbers are correct) is still lower than the -1000% recovery debuff from the crash.
So "crashless" is a misnomer. Ageless will certainly help to mitigate the nuke crash, but it won't eliminate the crash altogether. All in all, I'd say the so-called crashless nuke thing is a bad reason to choose Ageless Destiny. If you have other compelling reasons to take Ageless, then sure, go nuts -- but if not, don't lose sleep over Ageless' effect on the nuke crash. |
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For some reason I want to say Drain Psyche, but i'm not 100% if that's it. I'm pretty sure Drain Psyche is the only self regen/recov buff available to blasters in the psi category.
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Originally Posted by pmgunnerxx
Crashless is possible just not with ageless alone. But it would depend on your builds total recovery rate before Ageless including any outside buffs you may have being combined with ageless. OP is a blaster but a defender or corruptor can self buff their recovery so that would help them with this... I guess a blaster could as well if they took that one psi power that I can't remember the name off at the moment.
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Yep that's the one. You need to slot it for some EndMod though to have it somewhat reliably negate the crash.|
Originally Posted by Bionut911
For some reason I want to say Drain Psyche, but i'm not 100% if that's it. I'm pretty sure Drain Psyche is the only self regen/recov buff available to blasters in the psi category.
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I've used it alongside a nuke for a while now, and it's pretty good. There's just an issue with hitting all the targets needed to negate the crash, and there's the extra cast time which takes a bit of the oomph out of the nuke, assuming your DPS heavy teammates get to work on the spawn before you.
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Ageless is such a quick fix, tho', you can bounce right back from the crash. Nuke, then Ageless right away. Your end bar will look like a slide whistle!
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Yes there is, but it doesn't help you much. If your nuke doesn't hit anything at all, the drain never happens. If you hit even ONE target with it, you lose all your end. |
Originally Posted by Obitus
Yes. There's no way to avoid the initial 100% end drain.
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Like I said, not very useful.
I noticed it when I hit my nuke by accident a couple times. Nothing was hit by it and I kept my endurance (well, minus what the power itself costs to cast). I chalked it up to the devs not wanting to completely screw you if your nuke misses everything.
I will admit, that may have been a bug. If you want to replicate it to find out for yourself, I did it with a Sonic/Devices blaster and a Fire/Fire blaster. In both cases I kept my end bar if my nuke didn't deal any damage to anything.
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Not a bug. That's how the powers are coded.|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Yes there is, but it doesn't help you much. If your nuke doesn't hit anything at all, the drain never happens. If you hit even ONE target with it, you lose all your end.
Like I said, not very useful. I noticed it when I hit my nuke by accident a couple times. Nothing was hit by it and I kept my endurance (well, minus what the power itself costs to cast). I chalked it up to the devs not wanting to completely screw you if your nuke misses everything. I will admit, that may have been a bug. If you want to replicate it to find out for yourself, I did it with a Sonic/Devices blaster and a Fire/Fire blaster. In both cases I kept my end bar if my nuke didn't deal any damage to anything. |
Thunderous Blast gets it even easier in that it only drains 40 end per target hit (instead of 100end/target). Which means you can even use TB against individual targets like AVs without flooring your end.
Blizzard however always drains full end no matter what, because it drains when summoning the pseudo-pet, not when hitting a target.
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As I recall, when I had Thunderous Blast on my Defender I wouldn't lose all my end if I hit only one target with it; I'd only lose half. Nova, though, definitely drained all my end if it hit even one enemy.
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So it is usable with 0 end? Zesty. Crash recovery just got a new best friend. |
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
you can use the ageless destiny with 0 current end and the tier 4 refills your bar completely
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I've heard rumors that I can make my nuke crashless with the Ageless Destiny slot. I've even fired a nuke on a Lambda and my End. bar didn't even flinch. How is this possible? I've worked up to Ageless Partial Core Invocation but don't have the knack of it. What am I doing wrong? Or is this just a rumor?