Incarnate Progression changes:

Apex and Tin Mage TF's Reward 10 Threads instead of 2 Threads (When it used to be 2 Shards)

Replace Shard drops from content with Thread Drops, with an increase to the rate of it dropping.

Mender Ramiel's arc rewards 5 Threads for completion instead of 1 Shard (Or 1/4 common component.)

Allow equivalent exchange (best option IMO), or 1-1 on 1 shard per thread of old currency (The thing I likely see happening if it ever was changed to this):
- Equivalent Exchange : 1 Shard -> 5 Threads, Common Shard Component -> Common Thread Component, so forth.
- 1:1 Shard to Thread : 1 Shard -> 1 Thread, Common Shard Component -> 4 Threads, so on.

Allow Conversion of Notice -> Rare Component or Threads for rare Component, Favour -> Very Rare or Component or Comparable Threads.

Would like to see:

Non iTrial enemies rewarding reduced amounts of iXP (Doubt it'd happen at this stage of the endgame rollout though.)

Introduction of Incarnate Missions/Story Arcs for Solo to 8 player teams, rewarding bonus threads/components.

I'd have written something about an iXP only system, but I doubt that'd happen (even though the iXP couldn't be stockpiled, only funnelled into existing abilities, thus reducing the need for a currency gating system like we had for Shard content to Thread Content.)

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Shards do feel like old currency right now, be nice to phase them out. So agreed!

Anything which reduces the rediculous complexity of the existing 'system,' and the total pricing out of non-league progression can only be considered a good thing.

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Theres already plenty of Incarnate salvage...
Mobs should drop threads, shards should be removed. For I19 and Alpha slot it made sense, but not anymore.

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agree 1000%, with the alpha you want, shards ARE worthless and you have to spend money to convert then

shards atm are just a complete waste of money, if you could do a 1 shard to 1 thread conversion for free and have a 1 thread to 1 shard for free with increase in shard drop rates it would not be that bad

the biggest complaint i have is the insane inf costs for the very rare components

very rare components already do cost money if you buy all of the rare components required for them

Sounds reasonable, but I especially think:

"Non iTrial enemies rewarding reduced amounts of iXP"

is an interesting idea. Even if it is a tiny amount like prestige (maybe a little higher/but nothing that could be done in a few hours or overnight) that would be neat if they could add this for enemies 50 and over.

My suggestions would be:

Apex/Tinmage:

1. Enemies drop threads during these Task Forces. Only characters with the Alpha slot unlocked can gain Incarnate Threads.

2. No iXP is earnt in these Task Forces.

2. Completion rewards 1 Empyrean Merit/1 Astral Merit if the same Task Force is completed again within a 20 hour period. This replaces the current Threads reward.

3. Completion of the 'Master Of' objectives each reward a single Astral merit, in the same manner that completing the 'Master Of' objectives for a Trial reward Astral merits.

Rationale: Apex and Tinmage both require the same amount of time as a Trial, and are designed to challenge Incarnates. Trials are still the only way to earn Incarnate XP or to obtain Incarnate Components without resorting to threads, but this provides smaller groups of 8 a chance to earn threads/merits as well.

Solo Content:


Use the Tip mission format and create a series of 'Incarnate Tips'. Incarnate Tips begin to drop from enemies in the same manner as normal tips once a character has unlocked the Alpha slot.

1. Enemies drop threads during Incarnate Tip Missions. Only characters with the Alpha slot unlocked can gain Incarnate Threads. Incarnate Tip missions should be tougher than standard level 50 content, and should involve suitably challenging goals and opponents.

2. No iXP is earnt in these missions, only inf.

3. Successful completion of an Incarnate Tip mission rewards a single Astral Merit.

4. In the same manner as normal tips fill up an alignment meter, Incarnate tips provide Incarnate fame points that fill up a meter representing the Well's interest in the character. Maximum of 5 points of Incarnate fame per 24 hours. Once the character has 10 points of Incarnate fame, the character may take a special final mission that rewards an Empyrean merit on completion (in the same way that a morality mission rewards a Villain or Hero merit). The meter is then rest to 0 again.

Rationale: This is a slower method of progression than the Incarnate trials or task forces, and pure soloists are limited to one Empyrean merit per two days. It is, however, far quicker than the current solo option. It also provides a good framework for proactive characters to seek out the Well's power rather than requiring a network of new contacts and mission arcs.