Problem: Kicked from BAF because "I was an add and he was doing a 16 man only"


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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
That is not "taking it out on" another player.
I'm sorry, but you're about as wrong as possible on this as can be without imploding into a singularity of wrong.

Life threw you a curve ball. Instead of simply playing the game, you (generic you) had a tantrum and booted someone who only wants to play the damn game.

Simply because the universe didn't align itself to your will.



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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
I can sum up locked leagues thusly:

"L54 Farm LFM. 3M a run."
You assume much. And are wrong in doing so.


 

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So if your boss tells you that you're going to mandatory overtime for a couple days, do you kick your dog or beat your wife?
I don't pay my boss to entertain me.


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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
I'm sorry, but you're about as wrong as possible on this as can be without imploding into a singularity of wrong.

Life threw you a curve ball. Instead of simply playing the game, you (generic you) had a tantrum and booted someone who only wants to play the damn game.

Simply because the universe didn't align itself to your will.
No tantrums.


Perhaps YOU have them. I don't know you. I do not.

Again. Stop assuming. If you're talking wrong, you're doing it from vast experience at this time.


 

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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
So if your boss tells you that you're going to mandatory overtime for a couple days, do you kick your dog or beat your wife?
Completely uncalled for. Be better than that.


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
The error I see, and which we apparently won't agree on, is that I see that as an outstandingly obvious error by the development team. One in need of being fixed.
Or what you see as an error is simply the intent of the devs and they simply don't agree with you.

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(And I also refuse to take "It's developer intent..." as anything close to a persuasive argument on this.
In short, because it's inconvenient, you'll ignore it. Even though the devs EXPRESSLY stated that the LFG queue was intended to work thus.



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Or what you see as an error is simply the intent of the devs and they simply don't agree with you.



In short, because it's inconvenient, you'll ignore it. Even though the devs EXPRESSLY stated that the LFG queue was intended to work thus.
If I were ignoring it, I wouldn't be arguing for it to change. I note, as well, that you clipped out the other examples of "Developer intent" that got changed, as well. Inconvenient for you so you ignored it?


 

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Completely uncalled for. Be better than that.
The point is cogent and stated unambiguously so we don't barrel off on another tangent arguing what is and is not "semantics". On top of that, it's quite to the point and leaves no "wiggle room".

Simply because you find it difficult to answer such a question without contradicting your POV doesn't mean I'm the one being dishonest or underhanded here.



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So if your boss tells you that you're going to mandatory overtime for a couple days, do you kick your dog or beat your wife?
How does that comparison even begin to make sense? And if you're making statements like that, how could somebody be reasonably expected take you and your opinion seriously?


 

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The point is cogent and stated unambiguously so we don't barrel off on another tangent arguing what is and is not "semantics". On top of that, it's quite to the point and leaves no "wiggle room".

Simply because you find it difficult to answer such a question without contradicting your POV doesn't mean I'm the one being dishonest or underhanded here.
What I'm saying is uncalled for is any implication that Flux_Vector (or anyone else) "Kicks their dog or beats their wife." It's rude and uncalled for, and does nothing whatsoever for the conversation.

Again. Be better than that. Be worth listening to. Things like that make you *not.*


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
No tantrums.


Perhaps YOU have them. I don't know you. I do not.

Again. Stop assuming. If you're talking wrong, you're doing it from vast experience at this time.
I will post exactly what I said, with a bit of highlighting to prove that you didn't really read what I said. You merely reacted to it.

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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
I'm sorry, but you're about as wrong as possible on this as can be without imploding into a singularity of wrong.

Life threw you a curve ball. Instead of simply playing the game, you (generic you) had a tantrum and booted someone who only wants to play the damn game.

Simply because the universe didn't align itself to your will.
In short, this was NOT an attack upon you. Merely an observation of the phenomenon itself.



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The point is cogent and stated unambiguously so we don't barrel off on another tangent arguing what is and is not "semantics". On top of that, it's quite to the point and leaves no "wiggle room".

Simply because you find it difficult to answer such a question without contradicting your POV doesn't mean I'm the one being dishonest or underhanded here.
No, the fact that you're spam posting offensively to the thread in unwarranted personal attacks on people you disagree with is what means you're being dishonest AND underhanded here.


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You assume much. And are wrong in doing so.
I could quite convincingly make the same accusation.



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I could quite convincingly make the same accusation.
Or you could kick your dog and beat your wife!


 

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In short, this was NOT an attack upon you. Merely an observation of the phenomenon itself.
And yet you still made an assumption that a "tantrum" (an uncontrolled emotional outburst) was involved, whether from me or "Generic player 9078340938." If that's your expectation of anybody's having to deal with an otherwise unplanned addition to a team, you (non generic you) need to team with better people and/or find better friends to give you better examples.

And for your further information, if I *do* kick someone from a team - even if it's for their own behaviour, such as being rude and obnoxious (say, asking someone if they kick their dog or beat their wife,) I'll do so politely. They'll know why they're getting kicked from a team. No emotion is involved.


 

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I could quite convincingly make the same accusation.
I'm not painting everyone who wants a private league option as a farmer. You are, with that statement.


 

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I think one thing is being forgotten!

Even in a completely random PuG BAF or LS, the League Leader can kick people.

24 people on the BAF? The one who got the league leader star can just say "I just wanted 20 people" and proceed to kick.

If you're going to complain, then maybe complain that they gave the league leader the ability to kick, to begin with.


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Originally Posted by Flux_Vector View Post
When and where is your next birthday party? You can't refuse to answer, either.
*Address pulled as Flux got his read on*

I'll go buy some beer. And you're more than welcome to come out. Won't be much of a party though. I'm fairly asocial offline. Hence, no parties since I'd be the only one there.

It's also the middle of the work week this year. So I'll probably be at work (and they don't throw parties there either).

I'll also be recovering from GenCon too, so I won't be all that sociable.

You COULD look on my GenCon M&G as a party though. You're more than welcome to come on out to Indy. Hell, if you're of age, I'll even buy you a beer.



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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Exactly. And you wouldn't be griefing him if you did it. That's what the notes feature is for. A tool that let's you screen the people you meet in the game so you can play with people you like and avoid the people you don't like.
Thing is, the notes feature doesn't allow me to deprive someone of a trial they've already entered.



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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
Ah! This passive-aggressive variant of the "Shut up or I'll come out there and beat you up!" line. Do not EVER try this with me. I don't back down from threats.
You know - and coming from me, this is quite the statement, I know - I think you need to back off and cool down. You're reading a lot of aggression where there is none. Go relax. Have one of those beers. Take 30. No, can't force you to, not stating it like I have any authority. Just making the suggestion.

I'd also suggest, given this is a public forum, removing your private information. Should you care to PM it to them, go ahead, just don't leave it out publicly.


 

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Beat me to it.
Please see my response to his threat.



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Thing is, the notes feature doesn't allow me to deprive someone of a trial they've already entered.
Having the star does!


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
You know - and coming from me, this is quite the statement, I know - I think you need to back off and cool down. You're reading a lot of aggression where there is none.

I'd also suggest, given this is a public forum, removing your private information. Should you care to PM it to them, go ahead, just don't leave it out publicly.

In short, whether he intended it or not, that's exactly what his post was though.

I simply choose to diffuse it by supplying him the information requested and allowing HIM to choose whether or not to be an actual aggressor.



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Ah! This passive-aggressive variant of the "Shut up or I'll come out there and beat you up!" line. Do not EVER try this with me. I don't back down from threats.
... I didn't make a threat, dude. I'm too small nerdy and out of shape to reliably beat up anything more threatening than a twelve year old anyway. You may wanna put the keyboard down and go have a few beers instead. Also, I too advise removing your information and/or contacting a moderator to have it removed from anyone who might quote it.

What I was doing is giving an example. An analogy.

The LFG tool is a system that pushes unwanted guests onto other peoples' parties and now some people are both surprised and angry that those people are kicking them out.


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