Problem: Kicked from BAF because "I was an add and he was doing a 16 man only"
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-05-03 19:29 in Suggestions and Ideas
I saved the address! Now I need your last name and year of birth. I want to go shopping!
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Originally Posted by MunkiLord
Or you could kick your dog and beat your wife!
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Good point! Let me follow up on that.
*FWOOSH!*
Damn, missed the dog because I don't have one. OW.
Okay, the wife gets it now!
Crap. Single. I wonder why...
Oh yeah, face not even a mother xenomorph could love.
Stymied at every turn!
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Darn beat me to it again. |
Originally Posted by MunkiLord
Having the star does!
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That's what she said!
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Darn beat me to it again.
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Hyperstrike, we should switch homes during the summer. Texas is too hot and you have a golf course, pool, and tennis courts! Google is awesome.
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This thread is going to get locked soon....
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Originally Posted by MunkiLord
Hyperstrike, we should switch homes during the summer. Texas is too hot and you have a golf course, pool, and tennis courts! Google is awesome.
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Okay if you're given a situation by an agency you cannot control, do you punish someone else because of that?|
Originally Posted by MunkiLord
How does that comparison even begin to make sense? And if you're making statements like that, how could somebody be reasonably expected take you and your opinion seriously?
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Now I'm going to wax didactic again here. I asked a rhetorical question, I did NOT make a statement. I did not imply that this person kicked their dog or beats their wife.
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I'm not going to respond specifically to anyone in this thread, just because it's gotten way too heated, but let's say they later add the LFG functionality to the TFs already in game, and you wanted to run a 3-person Posi, but now had to go through the turnstile. And while you're queued up for it, someone else gets thrown in? I know I, personally, would be extremely miffed by this. Up until this point, the devs have repeatedly affirmed through actions (like giving us the kick button, allowing us to leave teams we don't like, etc.) that we never have to team with people we don't like. Now with the LFG system throwing people into your league (which I consider an extension of teaming), it's a complete about-face.
Additionally, let's say this group was going for an MoBAF run, and stuck with 16 because that's the number of people they knew who were down for it. And let's say this 17th person doesn't know it, and begins before the others get a chance to stop them (not saying the OP did this), deactivating the turrets. Then where does this balance?
But quite simply, my objection to the idea of not being able to lock down leagues for the BAF is that sometimes I only want to run with people I know, and just because I can't find 23 others at the same time doesn't mean I should have someone forced onto a team of friends.
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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Your point stands, mostly, for primary zone instances. It does, however, break down for ancillary instances of the same zone.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
The quote was dealing with instanced vs non. So, to put this politely:
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At this point I think Hyperstrike is intentionally setting out to get the thread locked.
Which is sad on so many levels.
"Experience is the mother of good judgement. Bad judgement is the father of experience."
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Unfortunately while I wouldn't mind Texas, and could do most of my work remotely, my employers expect me to be on-site at least some of the time.
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Originally Posted by MunkiLord
Hyperstrike, we should switch homes during the summer. Texas is too hot and you have a golf course, pool, and tennis courts! Google is awesome.
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Ideally no. But sometimes there is collateral damage.|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Okay if you're given a situation by an agency you cannot control, do you punish someone else because of that?
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| Now I'm going to wax didactic again here. I asked a rhetorical question, I did NOT make a statement. I did not imply that this person kicked their dog or beats their wife. |
I'm just saying it is a really bad comparison of situations since one is a potential felony and the other is somebody getting kicked off a trial.
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That depends on the situation.|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Okay if you're given a situation by an agency you cannot control, do you punish someone else because of that?
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If my boss comes up to me and says "I have to fire one of two people. You're not one of them. Neither have done anything wrong, we just have to reduce headcount," I don't have a lot of choice (other than quitting myself.) But how often does that happen?
However, this is a game. Being kicked from a team you were dropped into with no real control of either yours or the team leader is not "punishment." Kicking someone from the team is not "punishing" them. (Barring, again, behavioural reasons.) It may be inconvenient for everyone involved, but it is not punishment.
Personally, I like Wikipedia's definition, specifically for the last sentence, for thoroughness:
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| Punishment is the authoritative imposition of something negative or unpleasant on a person or animal in response to behavior deemed wrong by an individual or group.[1][2][3][4][5] The authority may be either a group or a single person, and punishment may be carried out formally under a system of law or informally in other kinds of social settings such as within a family.[2] Negative consequences that are not authorized or that are administered without a breach of rules are not considered to be punishment as defined here.[4] |
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There's no proper way to give you an appropriate answer that this forum will allow.|
Originally Posted by MunkiLord
I saved the address! Now I need your last name and year of birth. I want to go shopping!
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Plus, I'm not even sure that it'd be anatomically possible.
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I doubt it is intentional. Hyper probably doesn't care if the thread gets locked. I know I don't, which is why most of my posts in this thread are inane bull-****.
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Originally Posted by Flux_Vector
At this point I think Hyperstrike is intentionally setting out to get the thread locked.
Which is sad on so many levels. |
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Nope. Merely making a point.
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Originally Posted by baron_inferno
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WTF? Overreact much? |
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Okay, as you're the author of the original post that it was a reply to, and you've now read the response, I'll pull it.
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Originally Posted by Flux_Vector
... I didn't make a threat, dude. I'm too small nerdy and out of shape to reliably beat up anything more threatening than a twelve year old anyway. You may wanna put the keyboard down and go have a few beers instead. Also, I too advise removing your information and/or contacting a moderator to have it removed from anyone who might quote it.
What I was doing is giving an example. An analogy. The LFG tool is a system that pushes unwanted guests onto other peoples' parties and now some people are both surprised and angry that those people are kicking them out. |
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lol, fair enough
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
There's no proper way to give you an appropriate answer that this forum will allow.
Plus, I'm not even sure that it'd be anatomically possible. |
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Also, I didn't say you did. Just said you shouldn't ever try it with me as it wouldn't work.|
Originally Posted by Flux_Vector
... I didn't make a threat, dude.
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I think I'm going to have to build an image file that blinks (GENERIC YOU).
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Okay guys. Feel free to keep responding. I should have been in bed about 2 hours ago. Going there now. Will pick this up tomorrow if the mods haven't carpet-nuked the thread from orbit.
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Relevant:
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Would've been better if it was a picture of mother mayhem.
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Originally Posted by MunkiLord
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Better?
I totally need to use Mother Mayhem in the draft we're doing on Unleashed!!!!
I simply choose to diffuse it by supplying him the information requested and allowing HIM to choose whether or not to be an actual aggressor.