SR scrappers and incarnate trials

With Elude, I find the trials easier on SR than on any other scrapper.

In that case you may as well pick Shield and have more resistance, HP and offensive capabilities.

Regardless, I see a very large difference between 60% and 100%+ defense during the iTrials, on Turnstile PUGs. Preformed teams or teams of friends might be a very different story, but considering these trials are pretty easy if you've got basic coordination, once you start picking and choosing you can almost toggle your secondary off.

Even running SR w/ elude after the crash your more than likely going to be killed quickly after.

My kat/wp is doing well on the new trials and can pop SoW to get 70%s/l

Why would you stand still and get killed when you see the crash icon blinking? In my book, that's user error, not powerset failure.

Hey, at least one good thing about this is that bubblers and stuff like SoA maneuvers or even stacks of regular maneuvers or those tiny def stealth aura-type powers can actually help everybody nowadays. It was getting to the point where defense team buffs were useless most of the time because everybody was at or very close to the def soft cap.

But I still would prefer the enemies were using something like an auto-hit AoE def debuff, instead of everybody having +to-hit. This way SR's great trick of DDR (shared in lesser amounts with other defense sets, but not with those who come by most of their defense using pools and set bonuses) would still give it some edge. It would still make outside buffs very useful in these team situations without making the defense sets feel so targeted.

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Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus I dare you to take a resistance or regen based scrapper - build for zero defense (that includes no katana/BS) and then take it on the ITF and see how much fun that is.

Done it a few times with my Claws/Regen Scrapper and it was fun. I think I always got lucky with good PUGs, though, so that helped.

I usually fall two or three times on average per run when I get careless, but promptly revive, MoG and keep kicking a**.

She's not IOed for defense at all. I only hit 50 with her recently, but I purposefully decided to go with a non-def build just to learn/evaluate survival with only regen/heals, since most of my other characters are indeed built for defense. She does have CJ (cause it's CJ!) and Weave (was running out of good powers to pick), giving a puny 10% def (outside the few seconds of MoG godhood, of course) but I doubt that counts as building for defense...

The main difference when playing her, though, is that I have to dedicate a lot of my attention to surviving and frequently use every trick I get (Reconstruction, DP, IH, MoG, AoE KB, ST KD...) to stay alive, while with other characters I can focus more on dealing damage instead and just take survival for granted. But she's very fun to play like that, when I'm in the mood.

I also tanked the ITF with my /DA scrapper once and we did pretty good. It was my first ITF too, I think, so I didn't know about Romi's stunning rez and got dettogled and massacred once because of that, but otherwise, I don't really remember dying. Being /DA, though, she does have some defense, but once again I did not build for it, so she's far from the softcap. All her defenses are in the 20%-25% range I think...

Having a few trials under my belt now, I'm more convinced even than before that this Incarnate-soft-cap stuff is overwrought. Doing BAF in a League with only a handful of people running Destiny/Judgement is an absolute revelation.

If you've any doubts about DEF-based toons in Incarnate content, the answer is stacked Barriers, which are likely to become the rule rather than the exception as time goes on. Oh, and in the case of Lambda, the Battle Orbs' buffs are the main problem -- and fittingly enough, the Battle Orbs have comparatively low HP. Judgement is ready-made to wipe them out.

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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze Nice build

You guys are either the best players ever or I'm the worst ever - my PUGs fail more often than not.

(Or maybe you're calling preset teams PUGs... Which would be technically right I guess, but 16-24 players with specific ATs and powersets is a far cry from 8-12 melee heavy teams with 0-2 buff/debuff characters, most without a single incarnate power and some without the basic level shift or the alpha slot).