LFG tool...not that useful

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Do you know why people do premades instead of using LFG?

Because you can't get invited to a League while in the LFG queue.

You'd think that if you were making a League, and wanted to recruit through the LFG, you'd somewhat push a button or set a flag, and people would get invited into your League, and then when you thought you were ready, you could press a different button and start whenever you felt damn well ready and prepared for it.

Not at all. The whole thing is just one dark and nebulous thing that may or may not work and blocks you from playing missions AND from being invited into teams/leagues that may be forming in the meantime unless magically there's enough people to pull everyone in at some indeterminate and hard-to-predict point in the mysterious future (while you're sitting on your hands, since you need to be there at the keyboard waiting).

LFG is worse than useless. It's anti-useful, as in you're often better served by NOT putting yourself in the LFG queue. It beggars belief that they could botch this concept so badly.

Unfortunately, YOU are wrong here. In WoW, after you kill the end boss in an instance, you are permitted to queue for another without leaving that instance.

I tried the LFG tool many times. It consistently places me in 8-man Lambdas with bizarre group make-up, and never increases the team size above 8 people. None of those have been successful.

I don't use the LFG tool anymore.

And as it's been already pointed out, you can also do pretty much anything you want (including running instances and raids) while queued for the battlegrounds there. And the battlegrounds are cross-server to boot.

I see no reason why the game can't just dump the whole raid in a predetermined zone upon completion, if that were the problem. Or, even more sophisticatedly, dump people who were originally in missions in front of their now-reset missions the same way the Mission Teleporter does. Yes, it's more back-end technical work, but such work should have been done to begin with.

As it stands right now, the LFT tool is about as useful as the Launch Team Search. Anyone remember that?

And I agree - this seems far better designed around forming regular PuG teams where leadership and correct team composition is far less important. In fact, I was surprised to see a LFT window set separately. I'd have thought this would be an extension of the existing "Looking For" flags. Let me explain.

For instance, if I have myself set to "Looking for TF," then I could get an extra drop-down to specify the TF I'm looking for. If enough people show up with that same tag, we all get the option to join a TF team (kicking us out of our instance/team if we accept) and just go from there. What not many seem to understand is how much the logistics of putting together a team and keeping it current are a problem for so-called "solo players" and how much the unreliability of finding people to team with at all times is crippling.

If I could treat teaming like I treat my average team FPS game, I would team a lot more. You know what I'm talking about. I feel like playing with others, so I look at a list of servers, find the one playing what I want to play with the right number of people and join that. If finding teams started working like this, you can bet your red polkadot shorts I'd be teaming a HELL of a lot more.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

This already occurs with the Supergroup teleporter actually. And there is a resolution there as well.

Because it doesn't work just fine the way it is. It is worthless at best. Really, "festering turd" is a more apt description.

this is why i don't use it anymore too, although i managed to get one group of 9 where we beat it, the LFG tool is still stupid because it wont add anymore people unless you drop below the MINIMUM

it should be like in wow where the league leader can hit a button to look for more and it should attempt to fill slots. i wish <3

Okay, was going to make another thread on this very topic, but as it turns out, one already exists.

I think the LFG tool was and is a good idea, and I often try to use it when I'm looking for a trial.

The thing is, it hasn't actually worked for me since the opening days of the issue. I find myself joining the queue as I shoot up Rikti or Cimeroran spawns, only for 15-30 minutes to go by with no nibbles. My wait has never been as short as the average time advertised. Or I'll get queued for a trial where only the bare minimum required to start will be queried, one will decline, and the event will fail to initiate, at which point we all go back into the queue.

I have not been able to get onto a trial using the LFG queue alone since the first days of I20.

The only reliable way I've found to get onto a trial is to go to the RWZ where they're forming up and ask directly. While there is nothing wrong with this, I was sort of psyched for the Turnstile system when it was announced and wish it were more consistently functional.

I've no doubt that it will be tweaked and improved in the future.