Protector: an Opinion
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Well, I've said this elsewhere, but it's likely few from here have seen it.
I welcome criticism. I welcome people to tell me what they think of me, regardless of how they think it will make me feel.
This may seem like a contradiction, considering my behavior with the Reputation system last year. There's a difference, though, between being up-front with somebody and just making an anonymous, cowardly jab at a person's character.
I get angry. I argue. I grow extremely heated. These things can happen without warning, too, if somebody hits one of my hot buttons. The same is true of anybody.
But it takes a lot to make me truly hate a person. My Ignore List has one name in it, I think, and that's a spammer. Even people who have seriously irked me are not on it.
No matter what happens, I want people to understand that I'm still here to help.
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
Can we please let this thread die now?
"while some people would say fish, cow, ambush!"-Ice9
Why close it now that it's actually veered into a more positive path?
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Because this thread has been filling up with mindless banter that would be better suited for the "have fun here" thread. I'm glad you and Grey have aired out your problems. The only thing is there are no real solutions when like minded people get together.
And while you may say "well why don't you contribute" I say, because i don't care. Your morals are not my morals and vice versa. Just like maybe your problems with teaming is not my problem. I have people to team with and its not something i'm worried about.
So again, could we let this thread die please.
"while some people would say fish, cow, ambush!"-Ice9
Because this thread has been filling up with mindless banter that would be better suited for the "have fun here" thread. I'm glad you and Grey have aired out your problems. The only thing is there are no real solutions when like minded people get together.
And while you may say "well why don't you contribute" I say, because i don't care. Your morals are not my morals and vice versa. Just like maybe your problems with teaming is not my problem. I have people to team with and its not something i'm worried about. So again, could we let this thread die please. |
Ah. Afraid of a little thread competition. I see.
If you don't care, you don't need to pay attention to what happens here. The mindless banter is a symptom of our server, and the very reason the other thread was made anyway.
It seems to be the coping mechanism of Protector, to take subject matter that may be too serious or painful and making jokes out of it to brighten up the moods of those involved.
If you're not involved, though, what harm is it doing you? Obviously, you have some kind of stake in the matter, otherwise you wouldn't be looking into this. Instead, you come here, plead for us to drop the issue and get frustrated when we ask why we should.
Frankly, I guess I shouldn't be surprised by your and Riverdancer's responses to the issue. Certainly, this isn't an important issue for you, so it shouldn't be an important issue for anybody.
Except, it was. If it weren't, we likely wouldn't have wound up saying anything. The thoughts I presented are stuff I've been sitting on for the better part of half a year, and because everybody seemed to very steadily clam up over the course of last year, there's been no outlet for it.
This is what happens when you bottle issues up inside. There's no catharsis, and what we're left with is growing resentment. I'm trying to open up how I've been feeling, trying to reach out to people I once called friends and figure out what the Hell happened. I don't understand how a couple disagreements can lead to such a heavy falling out, to the point where a place where we all once had fun and relaxed has become desolate and ignored.
But, maybe you're right. Maybe that's the entropy of the situation. Our lives have changed over the years we've known each other, and we've come to focus on relationships more personally uplifting.
It just doesn't explain why we're starting to look weird and alien to each other.
If you don't see the point of it, don't look. That's fine. Still, your disregard hasn't convinced me of the unimportance of the discussion.
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
To be fair, you've always seemed a bit alien to me. But thats neither here nor there. This isn't group therapy, because most of the group isn't partaking in it. This is really two guys who are sad that everyone isn't all lovey dovey with each other.
I mean lets be honest this server has always been regarded as a very solo friendly. People team when they want to and don't when they don't feel like it. If more people had a problem with it we'd see it more in the major chat channels. But hey, I tell ya what. Make this a real important issue as you see that it is and spam the hell out of it and tell people to come over here and post their problems and suggestions. With copy and paste in the game it'll be easy to get people a direct link here.
As for right now though. This is a two man problem that the rest of us don't care about.
"while some people would say fish, cow, ambush!"-Ice9
I'm not asking for "lovey-dovey," and labeling the desired results as such is a ludicrous strawman argument. I want people to talk with each other again and have fun socially. I want them to confront issues they have with others and come to an accord. I don't want everybody hugging each other and saying everything's going to be okay, because that's as bogus as the situation we already have.
This shouldn't seem like such an offensive subject, and I find it surprising that you're reacting so strongly to it when you profess a lack of concern.
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
This kind of touchy-feely, group hug, problem solving thread is why I have almost 81 months in game and all of 50 posts on the forums. About every four months, someone sends me the link to the latest "let's hug it out" thread, and I check in to see the freak show. And look! Here it is this season! Just in time for Spring!
After more than six years in-game, I like who I like, dislike who I dislike, and that's that. Crying about it in the forums isn't going to change it. What are we supposed to fix?
"Gee, River, every time I see one of your comments on JS I think you're a complete idiot, so let's come in here, and I'll call you an idiot, and you can tell me that you were molested by border collies as a young lady, and I'll reveal that my grandmother threw yams at me until I was bruised, and we'll cry and have a laugh and be friends again and go on an RSF." Is that how it's supposed to work? Or is it, "Hey Sooner, every Hami raid we go on together, you grief, so if I open up to you that dingoes ate my baby, will you stop griefing the raids? I know we can work it out, let's try!"
I mean, come on. It's a small server, we have all played together before, and sometimes people just come to dislike each other. For Christ's sake, it happens. Many marriages don't last as long as CoX and end over dumber stuff. If you want to try relationship counseling in a pixelated universe, you have far, far greater problems than I can help with.
This kind of touchy-feely, group hug, problem solving thread is why I have almost 81 months in game and all of 50 posts on the forums. About every four months, someone sends me the link to the latest "let's hug it out" thread, and I check in to see the freak show. And look! Here it is this season! Just in time for Spring!
After more than six years in-game, I like who I like, dislike who I dislike, and that's that. Crying about it in the forums isn't going to change it. What are we supposed to fix? "Gee, River, every time I see one of your comments on JS I think you're a complete idiot, so let's come in here, and I'll call you an idiot, and you can tell me that you were molested by border collies as a young lady, and I'll reveal that my grandmother threw yams at me until I was bruised, and we'll cry and have a laugh and be friends again and go on an RSF." Is that how it's supposed to work? Or is it, "Hey Sooner, every Hami raid we go on together, you grief, so if I open up to you that dingoes ate my baby, will you stop griefing the raids? I know we can work it out, let's try!" I mean, come on. It's a small server, we have all played together before, and sometimes people just come to dislike each other. For Christ's sake, it happens. Many marriages don't last as long as CoX and end over dumber stuff. If you want to try relationship counseling in a pixelated universe, you have far, far greater problems than I can help with. |
I'm starting to wonder why you guys are so interested to see this thread die. I mean, you keep saying that you don't care...
Yet here you are... Trying to poke fun at some of us because of an, admittedly overly dramatic, attempt to reconnect. Of course, I've seen a few times that drama does a good job of making changes happen...
What I find odd is that you're somehow offended that people want to be friends again, or at least open up a dialogue to figure out what happened. If there's resentment, can't we at least air it out and discuss it? We may not end on good terms, but at least we'll finally know where we stand with each other.
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
Yeah, okay, so I don't post a whole lot on the forums any more. I'm still here. >.>
And I'm not going to derail this into an "I do this, I try to do that" thing either.
Instead, I'd like to point some stuff out that I've noticed in Protector Vigilance.
A lot of people in PV like to start TFs, which is good. A lot of people (myself included) like to run TFs. However, when you try to get a team together to do anything else, it's really difficult, maybe because people are so seriously focused on shards right now.
In a way, I kind of feel like the Incarnate system messed a bunch of stuff up, but that's neither here nor there.
The point is, a lot of people like to do a lot of different things. Sometimes everyone is interested in TFs. Sometimes it's tip missions. Sometimes it's just hanging out. It changes all the time, depending on what kinds of moods people are in. Sometimes you just have to open the /sea window and start sending tells to people.
And for cripes sake use the note system. I can't even tell you how many times I've gotten on a PuG, checked peoples' notes, and realized that I've teamed with most of them before (and so-and-so likes Moulin Rouge, plays a mean defender, stuck with it on an ITF that soured, etc.). I love rediscovering people I've met before. It's freaking awesome.
I started rambling partway through this, but hopefully it still makes sense. O.o
I'm starting to wonder why you guys are so interested to see this thread die. I mean, you keep saying that you don't care...
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admittedly overly dramatic, |
What I find odd is that you're somehow offended that people want to be friends again, or at least open up a dialogue to figure out what happened. |
If there's resentment, can't we at least air it out and discuss it? We may not end on good terms, but at least we'll finally know where we stand with each other. |
I'm starting to wonder why you guys are so interested to see this thread die. I mean, you keep saying that you don't care...
Yet here you are... Trying to poke fun at some of us because of an, admittedly overly dramatic, attempt to reconnect. Of course, I've seen a few times that drama does a good job of making changes happen... What I find odd is that you're somehow offended that people want to be friends again, or at least open up a dialogue to figure out what happened. If there's resentment, can't we at least air it out and discuss it? We may not end on good terms, but at least we'll finally know where we stand with each other. |
Several others have voiced their comfort and satisfaction at living with the fact that we're not all going to get along all the time - unless there's a badge to be gotten. And, no matter how much one side might want to make up, if both parties to a spat don't want to 'make nice' it will never happen.
You don't like me because of things I've said and done, I just don't talk to you anymore, and I imagine you're happy for it. We, for example, will never be buddies, but I team with you when the need arises. I know for a fact that's not the only case where two or more people who do not 'get along' can tolerate eachother's company long enough to achieve a common goal. Then, after total victory, they move on fondly gazing at their new shiney.
Frosty can't talk to Sooner because a dingo ate someones baby.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYxO3...layer_embedded
Disgusting and pointlessly done just for the shock value? Where's Badge?
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