I think the kinetic melee animations look better with shield defense.
That said, just about anything should work fine.
I think that Willpower/Kinetic Melee makes for a very good, thematic pairing.
It also gives you one of the few "natural" builds if that's what you're aiming for.
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I'm a fan of the synergy with Dark Armor. Call me biased.
Power Siphon is a long duration damage buff, which works very well with powersets that have damage auras: Fire, Dark, Electric, Ice.
The -dmg, I feel, is most noticeable if you stack it on heavy resist. We're down to Fire, Dark, and Elec.
The set has a few stun powers, and would be great if you could stack them with something. Dark Armor has Oppressive Gloom.
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Power Siphon is a long duration damage buff, which works very well with powersets that have damage auras: Fire, Dark, Electric, Ice. The -dmg, I feel, is most noticeable if you stack it on heavy resist. We're down to Fire, Dark, and Elec. |
Resist and Defense sort of have the same relationship with -dam that they have with each other, they're separate layers of mitigation but they don't really synergize together per-say (in the way say -ToHit and Defense go together). It seems logically that -dam and resist should complement each other in the same way, but they actually don't if you look at the maths behind damage calcuations (if you have 50% resists and 50% -dam you still take 25% damage)
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I'm a fan of the synergy with Dark Armor. Call me biased.
Power Siphon is a long duration damage buff, which works very well with powersets that have damage auras: Fire, Dark, Electric, Ice. The -dmg, I feel, is most noticeable if you stack it on heavy resist. We're down to Fire, Dark, and Elec. The set has a few stun powers, and would be great if you could stack them with something. Dark Armor has Oppressive Gloom. |
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This. I rolled up a Dark/Kin Tanker. It's an amazing combo.
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I'll bet it was some arrogant jackhole.
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Some dude, called himself Dish or Deck or something. :P
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For those curious: it's pronounced "Dex."
Notably not short for "Dexter."
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So far I quite like it paired with Elec myself. A recharge bonus (from Lightning Reflexes) to start with means you have Power Siphon up that much more often. And the two seem thematically to fit fairly well together as well as both are types of energy.
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So far I quite like it paired with Elec myself. A recharge bonus (from Lightning Reflexes) to start with means you have Power Siphon up that much more often. And the two seem thematically to fit fairly well together as well as both are types of energy.
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Before I got too bored of the KM animations (what is that guy doing? Baking a cake?), I thought the above was bag on. Thematically, I agree it has what all the cool kids call: Synergy.
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What goes well with Kinetic Melee for tanks? I was thinking DA/KM. Like to hear a few opinions on my options.
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Ice/KM is also very nice. It's a defense set, so it'll be easier and cheaper to softcap, but it's typed so you may end up with a few gaps. You have a lot of Slow resistance to keep the attack chains going. Energy Absorption is great for boosting defense and regaining endurance. It is arguably the best at aggro management (I still say Shield, but that doesn't mean Ice isn't great). Not so big on resists, but it has a damage debuff component in Chilling Embrace that helps everyone on your team and it stacks nicely with KM's damage debuffs. Oh, and you get a great heal and +HP power in Hoarfrost.
Shield/KM is another. Again, it's a defense set, but it's positional, which makes it super easy to softcap. You also get a good resistance base to work from and auto +HP. You get +damage from AAO and your opponents take a -damage debuff, which helps maintain aggro and take the edge off of those attacks that do slip through. Grant Cover provides a nice team buff and Phalanx Fighting is sure to help maintain survivability if the base to-hit numbers rise on some high-end enemies (as expected). And, the biggy, you get Shield Charge, which helps supplement Burst for AOE damage.
You can't go wrong with any of these, but if you made me choose, I'd probably pick Shield/KM. You get an easy softcap, resists, and buffs/debuffs all in one place. Shield Charge and an extra 19% total hit points are hard to ignore, too. The concern here would be endurance. If you don't plan on going Cardiac, then slot heavily for endurance and/or pick up Energy Mastery to help keep you going.
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That's got to be at least as good as Stone/Dual Toothpicks.
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If you want to go KM + Shield, I would do it as a scrapper since scrappers benefit more from +dmg. CS when it crits also recharges PS. The difference in a defense set on a scrapper vs. a tank isn't as much as a resist set.
For a tank, I would look at resist sets since you are looking more for -dmg aspect to stack with your resist.
Personally I think the best thematic and visual pairing is with Energy Aura (my KM/EA Brute isn't the toughest out there, but he looks mighty fine and is a blast to play), but Tankers don't have access to that powerset, so I'd probably go with Dark Armor or Willpower (though really anything can work well). The prospect of a Dark/Kin tank is tempting, that's probably going to be my next Dark Armor character once I figure out whether I want it to be a Tank, Brute or Scrapper.
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What goes well with Kinetic Melee for tanks? I was thinking DA/KM. Like to hear a few opinions on my options.