Firefly is back...
I just don't get why a great show like firefly was cancelled in the first place, and yet they can make piece of **** after piece of **** sci-fi movies like sharktopus...wtf?? I never got into battlestar galatica, but they cancelled it due to costs, and as above they keep making crappy 1 shot movies... The logic there baffles the mind.
This is happening to just about every channel that started with a "focus". Cartoon Network now shows live-action shows and movies, Sci-Fi became Syfy and now shows wrestling and seems to be trying to get away from just science-fiction based shows. History Channel for the most part seems to show stuff that has a long history attached to it, not history itself. SPEED channel used to show a lot of racing from European road races, to local short tracks in the U.S. Now it's just a bunch of bs shows vaguely related to racing, with the occasional Australian V8 Supercar races, sports car races (ALMS, Rolex, etc), and of course most of the NASCAR weekend (not that I'm complaining about that ).
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Indeed. MTV and VH1 with the avoidance of music videos has long been a cliche. AMC showing recent movies also decided to pitch their raison d'etre over the side.
One is left wondering what the point of having 200 channels is if specialty channels are going the way of the dodo. I guess at least the Food network does stick to it's subject, though if I see one more cupcake show, I'm really going to freak. |
Nericus, I think it's time we start playing the Mega Millions lottery.
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Anytime the flame of the Firefly is relit, new fans can be obtained and who knows? Maybe enough fan demand will rekindle the fire.
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Firefly coming back ain't going to happen Serenity pretty much made sure of that. It ended a lot of storylines and killed two of the more popular characters.
I Doubt We will see the Firefly 2: The Search for Shepard anytime soon.
You really think Nathan Fillon is going to leave a hit TV series to return to Firefly?
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Goodbye, I guess.
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I thought you Firefly fans (never seen it myself) might find this awesome/entertaining/hilarious:
It's from Patrick Rothfuss' blog. He is a succesful fantasy writer (The Name of the Wind and The Wise man's Fear) and a huge fan of everything by Josh Whedon.
http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2011/02/an-open-letter-to-nathan-fillion/
And yes, the guy's really serious.
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You really think Nathan Fillon is going to leave a hit TV series to return to Firefly?
Firefly coming back ain't going to happen Serenity pretty much made sure of that. It ended a lot of storylines and killed two of the more popular characters. I Doubt We will see the Firefly 2: The Search for Shepard anytime soon. |
Downsides to that are that I doubt the fans would unanimously accept that and be split among the two universes. Also Ron Glass the actor that played Book isn't exactly a young man these days and may not be up for the part, that would be up to him of course.
The comic Shepard's Tale gives us the main points of his rather checkered past.
How's this for an interesting character dynamic: The covert operative from Serenity has now left the alliance and while perhaps not finding religion, he still lives a life devoted to peace and perhaps fighting the alliance' injustice at times. Through no planning of his own, he again meets up with Mal and crew and ends up joining them. Talk about tension!
Nericus, if the show came back, they would likely either have to continue the show after the events of the movie (unlikely), or jump in and watch events between when the series ended and when the movie started (a la how Cowboy Bebop handled its movie, just in reverse).
Nixing where Whedon went with the story and calling it not canon is not going to happen. The creator of the show and movie wrote it, so you're just going to write it out? That's just weird sounding, and Whedon wouldn't go for it, I'm quite sure.
It's better to just call the series done, other than smaller stories being told elsewhere, like Shepherd's Tale or something. Whedon really wrapped up the show in the movie... and it's not just characters dying that does it. You could theoretically say that maybe there is still more to River than her knowledge of the Reavers (I know I thought there should be more than just that), but it's wrapped up. People have moved on to other things.
Maybe something else could happen in that universe, but Whedon would have to find something he wanted to do there again. It might happen, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Nericus, if the show came back, they would likely either have to continue the show after the events of the movie (unlikely), or jump in and watch events between when the series ended and when the movie started (a la how Cowboy Bebop handled its movie, just in reverse).
Nixing where Whedon went with the story and calling it not canon is not going to happen. The creator of the show and movie wrote it, so you're just going to write it out? That's just weird sounding, and Whedon wouldn't go for it, I'm quite sure. It's better to just call the series done, other than smaller stories being told elsewhere, like Shepherd's Tale or something. Whedon really wrapped up the show in the movie... and it's not just characters dying that does it. You could theoretically say that maybe there is still more to River than her knowledge of the Reavers (I know I thought there should be more than just that), but it's wrapped up. People have moved on to other things. Maybe something else could happen in that universe, but Whedon would have to find something he wanted to do there again. It might happen, but I'm not holding my breath. |
I'm sure River knows more then the just the Reavers, also the fact that there was the episode when Simon was able to get her brain scanned and saw the physical damage done to her brain. Basically her reality matrix/perception of reality is still likely not what we would call normal and her telepathy switch is still set to the ON position, its just now she has a handle on it and perhaps with some medicines can still compensate for the physical damage to her brain. Mentally, ok knowing the secret of the Reavers and who knows what else definitely didn't help, plus she is still mentally wired with who knows what command words that could set her off. Is River 100% cured? Nope. Is she on the road to recovery? Yep. So there are plenty of stories for her, heck Mal might even be able to use her secret knowledge of the alliance to rally a new Browncoat resistance and start the war again.
The Reavers: the movie did not make it clear if they were all wiped out in space and on the ground, so there may be survivors to prowl the stars.
The Alliance: parliament has taken a bad blow thanks to that message that Mal broadcasted. The start of a new revolution? Maybe. Start of reform within parliament or at least the appearance of reform? Maybe. Alliance mad as blazes at Mal? IF they know he was the one that made the broadcast then they may have marked him for death.
Mal: clearly this broadcast about the Reavers and thus hurting the Alliance has helped cure some of his Post Traumatic Stress from the war. What does he do now? Marry Inara? (he's an idiot if he doesnt), keep on dodging the Alliance? has to if the Tams stick around. Also his constant quest to hurt the alliance helped trigger events that got Wash killed, so now he and Zoe may have problems with each other. Not that it was Mal's fault per se but she may end up hating Mal for a time.
The Covert Operative: what does he do now? Go religious like Book did? Become a mercenary? Fight the Alliance? Join the crew of Serenity? Wouldn't mind seeing him do the last for the tension and drama it would create, plus Mal would again have someone who knows how the Alliance works like the Shepard did.
Planet Miranda: If Mal wants to get some nice goods to sell such as medicines, or parts for the ship and restock food and weapons and medicine for the ship then that planet is a gold mine, presuming the Reavers are gone. They can go in with air masks like in the movie, get the supplies they need, leave and sell the stuff and come back for more.
Many stories for the comics and novels, if not the screen. Joss can easily keep it going with Dark Horse like he does with Angel and Buffy.
How's this for an interesting character dynamic: The covert operative from Serenity has now left the alliance and while perhaps not finding religion, he still lives a life devoted to peace and perhaps fighting the alliance' injustice at times. Through no planning of his own, he again meets up with Mal and crew and ends up joining them. Talk about tension!
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Besides, Mal would make good on his promise to kill the Operative if they ever meet again.
Goodbye, I guess.
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Tense situation, yes. But it'd never happen. The Operative of Parliament is a dyed in the wool, fanatical Alliance loyalist. Even disgraced as he is, he wouldn't join up with the crew of Serenity.
Besides, Mal would make good on his promise to kill the Operative if they ever meet again. |
He's not serving them anymore. After seeing the origin of the Reavers and what a "perfect world without sin" can be, he can't serve them anymore.
As to Mal killing him, yeah probably. Unless circumstances dictate they need each other alive for a time.
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Goodbye, I guess.
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Yay. Another hard educational channel begins to die, and Firefly fans cheer the impending stupidity.
I remember hearing all the hype about that show, my brother.. a big fan.. finally showed it to me. Firefly's not bad at all, but it's painfully obvious Whedon was heading towards Buffy in Space with River. I couldn't help but feel the show's driven by "It got cancelled now it's awesome" syndrome. The show was a whole sort of general mishmash and the only direction it seemed to be taking was increasing absurdities about River. Also, for how powerful China ostensibly was, we never saw anything but stockstandard europeans and token blacks. Summer Glau is not Asian.
Anyone remember Andromeda? That started awesomely strong as well, then over the course of 5 years it faded into obscurity. It comes down to this, if Andromeda had been on Fox and Firefly had been on UPN, which one was remembered as "killed before it's time" and "started strong but ran out of steam" would simply be reversed. And I'm gonna be honest, I don't think Firefly actually started strong, either. Five of the episodes were already nothing but sitcom-level filler. It may have been cancelled because the execs said "Wow, not even halfway through season 1 and already we're getting 'middle of season 4 coasting on momentum' level episodes."
I just can't bring myself to care that a show trying to have us believe a 98 pound chick can beat, in unarmed combat, 5 giant feral near-beasts in hand to hand combat got killed before it got stupider. I love female heroines.. I also love them believable. I just don't find broody/crazy tykebombs entertaining.
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That's what you get for putting mayo on your french fries instead of ketchup like normal people
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This place apparently has it on Blu-Ray at least: http://www.dvdpost.be |
Anyway, I'll catch Firefly when it airs on cable around these parts. Which can take another year or two ...
I don't tend to spend money on TV shows if I'm not sure I'm going to really like them. And since Josh Whedon's other shows that aired here (Buffy, Dollhouse,...) were only so-so in my opinion, I'm a bit hesitant towards Firefly.
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Pff, 'french' fries are actually a Belgian 'invention'. If anyone is eating them wrong it's you lot. The only thing ketchup is edible on is hotdogs, and then only with mustard.
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Also, the only acceptable condiments for hot dogs are chili, cheese, and onions. Followed by a period of isolation, or some sort of sporting event where you can blame the guy behind you.
Goodbye, I guess.
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I don't own a Blu-Ray player. I got a highgrade DVD homecinema system, that still works perfectly fine. I think I'll skip Blu-Ray and upgrade whenever the next best thing gets released in a few years.
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Yay. Another hard educational channel begins to die, and Firefly fans cheer the impending stupidity. |
The History Channel use to be nothing but historical documentaries. We jokingly called it the Nazi Channel due to all the WWII shows. Now The History Channel is reality TV about vaguely historical stuff or reality TV about extreme jobs or reality TV contest about weapon skills or documentaries about ancient aliens, Nostradamus or some other topic normally heard on Coast to Coast AM.
All the stuff The History Channel use to have has been shunted to The Military Channel. At some point I wouldn't be surprised of Band of Brothers or 12 o'clock High or even Hogan's Heroes pop up over there to boost ratings.
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Yay. Another hard educational channel begins to die, and Firefly fans cheer the impending stupidity.
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Yay for you thinking the downfall of the channel is something they are putting on now and not problems with the channel before this decision. As I said earlier, this is one of my goto channels but it has been suffering lately with lack of content and the much overused "How it's Made" or "Mantracker" (/shudder) marathons. At least it's not another attempt at an "educational" reality show and they are going to incorporate hard science facts from scientists after the show. Who knows, maybe it will inspire some kid who catches the neat little sci fi show into becoming an astronomer or theoretical physicist or maybe just inspire them to watch more science oriented content.
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How many Firefly fans does it take to change a light bulb?
They wouldn't. They'd rather spend a decade complaining about how it went out.
Goodbye, I guess.
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Science is one of my "go to" channels. Adding Firefly won't hurt my feelings one bit, especially if folks like Kaku will be adding science tidbits.. If it takes the place of one of the 10000 episodes of "How It's Made" a day then even better.
* And also: An Idiot Abroad is a staggering work of genius. Don't be hatin'.
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