"Marvel is going to kill a main character every quarter"
Don't worry, though - even if Quesada and Alonzo are planning to kill off Marvel Comics, Disney will resurrect it in a year or so, with a brand new hip costume and street-smart attitude to appeal to today's youth!
Kill off a min character each quarter? Not this crap again.
Tyger (50), Mutation-Controller Mind/FF - oldest Mind/FF on Union
...Marvel's Senior Vice President of Sales, David Gabriel, told the audience... "As a result of the Fantastic Four sales and media coverage, Marvel is going to kill a main character every quarter."
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Not just the character deaths like you said, but reboots and the need to completely change charactaracter until they become something that has nothing to do with the orginal character other than name.
Even worse than killling a character is bringing them back. Well, killing them, bringing them back, killing them again, and bringing them back again while possibly having them turn evil or return pre-some MaCarthy-esque Commie-killing escapades.
So I've finally thrown in the towel on the new stuff. There is a lot of old stuff that I would like to read that was too expensive to get that are coming out in B&W compilations.
I'm sure there will be "some" cool new stuff that I'l miss, but it seems that it will be few and far between and only a couple of issues in a row of any comic and possibly a team writing that comic.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I really liked the first run of the new Power Girl book. It was funny and quirky. Made fun of itself and made the charater likable.
Then an new team took over, destroyed the character's life, and turned her into a mean statue of a superheroine.
I like to see variety in writing. But when everyone turns into a dark and brooding character, it isn't variety any more. It's just the same thing. And if I wasn't buying it in the first place for some character that I'm not reading, why would I want the charater that I LIKE to read about THAT ISN"T DARK AND BROODING to suddenly be the kind of character that I don't enjoy reading about.
I'm not saying that I don't like a dark and brooding Batman, but that's Batman...but then, ...he can't stay dead either...
...I guess I don't have to worry about enjoying my favorite character -from here on out that character will become something drastically different every year or so .... maybe at some point it will become something that I want to read again ... at that point it will probably be more likely as I'll get it as a graphic novel rather than a comic book, but then it would have to be as a comic first, but t would be highly unlike that it would come out in a graphic novel if people werent' buying the comic, and if people are still buying what I don't like ...
... yeah... it's not about the fans, it's about the speculators now ...
This suckage is in DC's stuff as well now.
Not just the character deaths like you said, but reboots and the need to completely change charactaracter until they become something that has nothing to do with the orginal character other than name. |
Cancel the title and turn her into a cookie-cutter villain while completely forgetting her problems with language and handing her over to a writer who had NO idea how her abilities worked.
Sure, they tried to fix it later, but it wasn't perfect and left a stain on the character. Now, of course, she's gone again; stuck in comic book limbo. Which is dangerous, since she's still popular enough that she's a perfect candidate for a cheap shock death.
Can you tell I'm still obsessing over this? Almost as much as I obsess over..... Gert.
The problem with this "death" is that noone cares. No marvel character is iconic enough other than maybe Spiderman... and for spiderman it's not so much the death that people would care about but rather the ending of spiderman's story.
When they kill Superman it's big news.
When they "kill" Batman it means development in the bat-family.
When they reboot Wonder Woman noone cares because they do it so often >.>
When they kill a Flash it means something big is going down in DC.
When they kill a Robin it hits a nerve with characters and people alike.
When they killed Hal Jordan it was the signaling of an end of an era in the DCU.
It's because just about every character in DCU you have something of a connection to and even if the name is going to be back probably, it doesn't necessarily mean that character is... and it almost always means something to someone.
In Marvel everyone always comes back and no deaths ever really effect you or the universe. The major events don't signify anything and at the end of their events the status quo is always returned to rather than the universe evolving... and if the universe does evolve nothing on screen is effected. It is always the thousands of mutants off screen no one knows about that aren't mutants any more.
It's because just about every character in DCU you have something of a connection to and even if the name is going to be back probably, it doesn't necessarily mean that character is... and it almost always means something to someone.
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Also, Hal Jordan's death may have been MEANT to signal the end of an era, but ended up being more of a signal to the beginning of nerd rage.
There are a VERY small number of comic book deaths to which I'll say, "yeah, that works and had a reason to it". And only about 1% of THAT number I would say, "that character should never come back".
I know everyone says that if I know the characters can't die, then there's no emotional investment in the story. I have NEVER agreed with that. There are plenty of ways to have drama and character development in a story without resorting to something as easy as killing someone.
I'm in the minority in that I WANT to know that my favorite characters will have won by the end of the story. It's the journey to get to that ending that I'm interested in. HOW they win and WHAT they have to do to win.
I know that those stories are harder to write and it's easier to kill or mutilate somebody so that everyone can be all angsty about it, but that just doesn't interest me.
Y'know who I liked. Red Arrow and his kid. I liked that there was a hero who was actually raising a child while being a hero instead of having some plot conveinence to get rid of the kid. Plus, they were cute together.
But nope. We can't have that, so let's get to the death and dismemberment! DRAMA!!
Same deal with Ralph and Sue Dibney. I fell in love with those two in 'Formerly Known as the Justice League' series. I was like, "these guys are awesome". A couple in comics with a stable relationship filled with plenty of love and snark.
Oops, sorry. Looks like they're dead too. Now go watch us completely destroy Mary Marvel!! DRAMA-GASM!!!!
Guh. Makes me wanna chug some drain cleaner.
Except that now Hal Jordan and Barry Allan ARE back as Green Lantern and Flash.
Also, Hal Jordan's death may have been MEANT to signal the end of an era, but ended up being more of a signal to the beginning of nerd rage. |
btw I consider Hal's death to be from the point he went insane to the point in Final Night where he actually dies...
First, he killed the GLC and in the DCU they've been around, alone for billions of years so you could coulld look at DCU overall history as "very early era", "Manhunter era" "GLC era" and then the "Spectrum era"
Secondly, with Zero Hour it was the end of the era of multiple futures for one universe for the readers. became a streamlines universe with one past and one future.
So he'll be back in short order.
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
Someone play my AE arc! "The Heart of Statesman" ID: 343405
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
Someone play my AE arc! "The Heart of Statesman" ID: 343405
Oh so this time it'll actually affect the other titles?
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And I really don't give a damn.
Honestly, outside of a one or two titles (none containing an X, Spider-, Deadpool, Thor, Ultimate, or Avengers in it...YES, such titles actually exist!), I've completely stopped caring about Marvel.
I think I need to just stop reading comics for a while. Just starting to get REALLY aggravated with the crappy storytelling, continuity, and push for all these pointless crossovers.
The last time I burned out and stop buying comics, I stayed away almost 10 years. As such, it was really kinda nice when I came back (though the sticker-shock kinda caught me off guard).
Not a fargin clue.</RomanMoroni>
And I really don't give a damn. Honestly, outside of a one or two titles (none containing an X, Spider-, Deadpool, Thor, Ultimate, or Avengers in it...YES, such titles actually exist!), I've completely stopped caring about Marvel. I think I need to just stop reading comics for a while. Just starting to get REALLY aggravated with the crappy storytelling, continuity, and push for all these pointless crossovers. The last time I burned out and stop buying comics, I stayed away almost 10 years. As such, it was really kinda nice when I came back (though the sticker-shock kinda caught me off guard). |
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
Someone play my AE arc! "The Heart of Statesman" ID: 343405
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whiskeytangofoxtrot!??!?!?!
Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.
good luck D.B.B.
Humor aside, more'n likely not. Unless Alonzo changes the previous "rule" that cosmic Marvel was essentially it's own pocket setting that barely affected what happened on Earth.
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I hope it's not going to go down as another Kree/Skrull War where everyone talks about it's this huge things that happened yet it had like zero effect on the planet.
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
Someone play my AE arc! "The Heart of Statesman" ID: 343405
Also the death scene is way too ambiguous, also the original Android Torch was reactivated before this, so Marvel still has a Torch it's just not Johnny Storm.
But for this Annhilation wave that appears to be coming there are no Guardians of the Galaxy, and no Nova Corps or Nova Prime to spear head the fight. Yes there are the Annihilators which were gathered as part of Star Lord's plans in case he and the Guardians fell. They have the sheer might to go against an annihilation wave, but more will be needed.
Proton Sentry Peacebringer:lvl 50+++ - Human Build / Triform Build
Quasar Sentry Warshade:lvl 50+- Human Build / Triform Build
Red Katipo Arachnos Soldier:lvl 50+++ - Crab Build / Bane Build
Black Katipo Arachnos Widowlvl 50+++ - Fortunata Build / Night Widow Build
They can quickly dilute there own news worthiness if they want but if this is true then Marvel is dead to me.