Better choice for doing what?
What criteria are we to use to make that judgment?
Not better or worse more like what are the main differences between the two Ancillary Pools. Is it just play style/ preference?
Mu has better AoE than fire, because it has 2 AoEs. Additionally all you need to get are the two AoEs, no useless filler power. Whereas fire only has one AoE and you need to get 2 other powers to get to that.
However, fences has that -KB effect which can be a bad thing unless you are farming most of the time.
But if you can get patrons i would recommend soul rather than fire if you don’t want the -KB effect from fences.
So sum up: mu if you are a farming toon or soul if you aren’t. Fire just uses too many powers, imo.
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As ultrawatt said, Fences do -KB and I'd never use them with a SS toon because FS is an important source of mitigation. So that leaves us with one AoE in the pool. So the question is do you want a great ST attack as well as an AoE? If yes, go for Soul. If not, is one power pick saved more important to you than a not-so-big increase in damage? If yes, stick with Mu, otherwise go Fire. Also go with fire if you can spare the power pick and need more recharge (you can stuff 4x Basilisk's Gaze into Char for +7.5%).
Alright thanks a lot ultrawatt and Exxar I think Soul is what looks best for more of a all around feel. One more AoE and another good ST hit. Thanks again 
P.S. If anyone has a SS/Fire/Soul Brute or build out there if they could please post it up that would be much appreciated!
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Alright thanks a lot ultrawatt and Exxar I think Soul is what looks best for more of a all around feel. One more AoE and another good ST hit. Thanks again
P.S. If anyone has a SS/Fire/Soul Brute or build out there if they could please post it up that would be much appreciated! |
LGTF and Hami Raids.
If you don't do them, well then, it doesn't really matter.
However, if you do, having a Hold power comes in handy, more so for the LGTF.
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This is not a valid way to compare them. For example, SS is widely cosidered one of the better AoE sets and it has exactly one AoE power, a tier-9. It just happens to be so incredibly good all by itself that it puts the set up high in AoE comparisons.|
Originally Posted by ultrawatt
Mu has better AoE than fire, because it has 2 AoEs.
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The Mu AoE immobilize, is not really much of a damage power would you really try to farm with it and nothing else? Fireball hits harder than ball lightning.
That said, not needing to take filler powers, and having the Immob to prevent runners and to plug gaps in an AoE chain is at least helpful.
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Needing to take 2 powers before even touching the AoE in the blaze epic vs taking both AoE in Mu? I'd say Mu is better for that reason alone in some regard.
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This is not a valid way to compare them. For example, SS is widely cosidered one of the better AoE sets and it has exactly one AoE power, a tier-9. It just happens to be so incredibly good all by itself that it puts the set up high in AoE comparisons.
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SS is cosidered one of the best AoE sets because you only need that one power thanks to burn and APPs/PPPs(mu).
With mu, you can always have an AoE up. That cant be done useing fire.
Also, fences IS a good dmg power. In fact it should end up doing over 40 dps. Thats about what fire ball does, but it has higher target cap. But then you also have ball lightning which does about 30ish dps. So in the end mu does about 1/3 more AoE dps than pyre.
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However, if you do, having a Hold power comes in handy, more so for the LGTF.
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He has Knockout Blow
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Like I said, it's just something to think about. Personally, I think Char is one of the worst looking holds in the game.
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With insane levels of recharge, go with fire. I used to have Mu but got to the point where I was only useing one of the AoE attacks before footstomp would recharge and elec fences just sat there neglected. I went with fire, single slotted char (thank you inherent fitness for the extra power slot) and now have a total of 3 aoe attacks and a damage aura. I kill stuff way faster than before, but then again I am at +250% global recharge most of the time (thank you FF proc). YMMV
Edit to add: Also, the Ragnarock chance for KD is great for mitigation when farming. However kinda useless on teams with lots of imob.
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Hmm, interesting. I sit at 301% global when my Proc fires (hitting the rech cap, yay!). I just might have to take a look at this. You just might have something there considering the fences, burn, ball, FS attack chain takes about 7.128 seconds to do but each power rechs in less than 6 seconds. I will take a look a this later today. |
Originally Posted by HelinCarnate
With insane levels of recharge, go with fire. I used to have Mu but got to the point where I was only useing one of the AoE attacks before footstomp would recharge and elec fences just sat there neglected. I went with fire, single slotted char (thank you inherent fitness for the extra power slot) and now have a total of 3 aoe attacks and a damage aura. I kill stuff way faster than before, but then again I am at +250% global recharge most of the time (thank you FF proc). YMMV
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This is exciting
Edit: Ok, tried it out and i was not able to maintain a full AoE attack chain 100% of the time without using fences. HelinCarnate, do you use your heal or anything?
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i would take a patron, for the aoe immob. for farming, its aoe dmg, for regular play, its very useful to keep things in your aura, and for the enfeebled operation set. great bonuses for regular play.
also, consume is an aoe technically, you can slot it for acc and dmg.
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I agree. For lvl 50 content, soul is very useful. For example, you could put Darkest Night on a GM DE (Stratopeia?) on Monster Island and go make a sandwich. Occassionally, the GM will hit, but your brute will either regen or heal itself until the next hit.
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Originally Posted by ultrawatt
So sum up: mu if you are a farming toon or soul if you arent. Fire just uses too many powers, imo.
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it all depends on how you slot it and which powers you use.
Iv'e got a rough sketch of the build I use, elec melee, Firey aura, pyre mastery.
damage seems good, is it ok to post what I have pieced together here?
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Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer
it all depends on how you slot it and which powers you use.
Iv'e got a rough sketch of the build I use, elec melee, Firey aura, pyre mastery. damage seems good, is it ok to post what I have pieced together here? |
I dont see why it wouldnt be.
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@Caucasiafro
Hello everyone just had a quick question for my SS/Fire Brute. What are the main differences between Mu and Fire? What would be a better choice? Thanks ahead of time!