Necroposting


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If all it takes is a few weeks for a thread to be considered dead... then please put in an auto-lock feature if you don't want it to be posted in.

As far as I'm concerned, if it shows up on the front page of a section or is a link through from another active thread... then it's fair game to be posted in if it hasn't been locked already; especially if it holds relevance to current issues. As well as if it comes up as a netiquette-based search result for something I would like to post but not flood the relevant section with.

Thanks.


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Originally Posted by Yogi_Bare View Post
If all it takes is a few weeks for a thread to be considered dead... then please put in an auto-lock feature if you don't want it to be posted in.

As far as I'm concerned, if it shows up on the front page of a section or is a link through from another active thread... then it's fair game to be posted in if it hasn't been locked already; especially if it holds relevance to current issues. As well as if it comes up as a netiquette-based search result for something I would like to post but not flood the relevant section with.

Thanks.
Well I don't mind if this forum has rules about what it considers necroposting or not. I just know those rules are currently "unevenly" enforced. I know there are some threads which have been locked for necroposting after only a few days of inactivity and there are other necroposted threads that go unlocked even if they are brought back after several months.

Consistency is all I'd ask for out of this. *shrugs*


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I'm not a mod here, but as a rule of thumb, I consider necroposting on the forums I run when you "resurrect" a thread that has been inactive for more than 3 months. Anything other than that is fair game for a repost. Of course, on forums with high traffic, I guess that would be a far too long margin.


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Originally Posted by Yogi_Bare View Post
If all it takes is a few weeks for a thread to be considered dead... then please put in an auto-lock feature if you don't want it to be posted in.
alternately, you can just look at the date before you reply.

or, having replied, say "my bad" when folk point out the necro.



either of which are more reasonable than demanding the forums be retrofitted to safeguard you from making easily avoidable mistakes.


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alternately, you can just look at the date before you reply.

or, having replied, say "my bad" when folk point out the necro.



either of which are more reasonable than demanding the forums be retrofitted to safeguard you from making easily avoidable mistakes.
This is kinda my feel on it, too. It's pretty easy to type a "sorry for bringing this thread back up, but it was the first one I could find on subject X."

I can buy that there aren't many posts on some subjects, so a search might turn up an older thread that you want some clarification on. But it's the 2+ year old threads that get brought back with no explanation that really irk me.


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But it's the 2+ year old threads that get brought back with no explanation that really irk me.
The funny thing about those multi-year necroposts is that they're often about a topic that gets re-posted on regularly anyway. It's like what was so special about that one old thread when there have been 20 newer ones on the same topic?

EDIT: A thought just occurred to me: I wonder if a year from now when someone wants to talk about necroposting again will they resurrect this thread or start a new one?


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The funny thing about those multi-year necroposts is that they're often about a topic that gets re-posted on regularly anyway. It's like what was so special about that one old thread when there have been 20 newer ones on the same topic?
However, I do love the confusion they cause with me. Hmmm... a thread about Threat? I'll have to check that out. Wait a second, I posted in this thread? What the heck? I don't remember that! When was this...two years ago!?!?! Holy hell!


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Well I don't mind if this forum has rules about what it considers necroposting or not. I just know those rules are currently "unevenly" enforced. I know there are some threads which have been locked for necroposting after only a few days of inactivity and there are other necroposted threads that go unlocked even if they are brought back after several months.

Consistency is all I'd ask for out of this. *shrugs*
Generally they are locked cause someone reported it and brought it to their attention. The threads that wheren't locked might not have been reported.



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Originally Posted by Nethergoat View Post
alternately, you can just look at the date before you reply.

or, having replied, say "my bad" when folk point out the necro.



either of which are more reasonable than demanding the forums be retrofitted to safeguard you from making easily avoidable mistakes.
Kind of funny considering your tag line.

Anyhow, I did ask (in that thread) the amount of time required in order for something to be considered a necropost (being that a few seemed to be 'in-the-know') either no one knew or no one cared to give an answer and it became an active thread (albeit, just not on the main topic of that thread).

I regret that my post (which was an addendum to a side-point being made there) turned into a thread-jack of sorts (which was not the intent); which I acknowledged in the thread but considering that I was able to stumble in on the thread as easily as I did; I didn't see the need for a thread-lock based on that. The thread-jacking; sure.

Being that there is no 'set in stone' standard and it is 'apparently' at someone's whim; then I really have no choice but to play it by ear (and I stand by my guidelines for it). It wasn't like the thread was 4+ mos old or anything.


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I'm not a mod here, but as a rule of thumb, I consider necroposting on the forums I run when you "resurrect" a thread that has been inactive for more than 3 months. Anything other than that is fair game for a repost. Of course, on forums with high traffic, I guess that would be a far too long margin.
Someone here has an itchy necrolock trigger finger.


 

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Generally they are locked cause someone reported it and brought it to their attention. The threads that wheren't locked might not have been reported.
Yes I know why the inconsistency exists. That doesn't mean its strictly excusable.
Rules tend to lose their significance if they aren't uniformly enforced. *shrugs*


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On one hand I'm glad to see that someone is actually SEARCHING before posting, but it's highly unlikely they couldn't find a more recent thread than one made 3, 6, 9 months ago and theres no excuse for necroing 2 year old threads.


 

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IMO, it's only necroposting when bringing up an old thread with some dumb irrelevant comment like "RISE FROM TEH GRAVE!1" or replying to the OP with information that wasn't available/true when the post was made.

That said, I'd rather there be no time limit on what's considered necroposting but rather the relevance of the post that bumps it. Honestly, I'd rather be consolidating comments or ideas about a subject in one thread rather than making a new one ever couple of weeks that people will whine and complain and tell you to 'use the search function!' etc. etc.


 

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...Honestly, I'd rather be consolidating comments or ideas about a subject in one thread rather than making a new one ever couple of weeks that people will whine and complain and tell you to 'use the search function!' etc. etc.
Exactly.


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Honestly, I'd rather be consolidating comments or ideas about a subject in one thread rather than making a new one ever couple of weeks that people will whine and complain and tell you to 'use the search function!' etc. etc.
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Exactly.
Apparently the Mods of this forum feel it's more useful to have multiple threads open on the same topic than it is to have related posts organized under one thread no matter how old it is. The "logic" of that will always elude me. *shrugs*


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My two cents.

I think that a necro post no matter how old should be considered ok so long as it starts generating (or regenerating I suppose) a genuine discussion. If you look at the "How do you name a character" thread it fits perfectly. It was a necropost but immediately fired up interest with multiple people giving their take on the question.

When on the other hand the new posts in the thread mostly consist of statements about resurrecting the dead and forum rules then it should be locked.

And I think some Moderators take the zero tolerance policy approach using only the rules and not common sense. They are the types who would expel a 10 year old from school for bringing a gun to class. A 1 inch long gun that belonged to one of their Transformers toys.


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That's about how I've always felt about it: if the topic is still relevant, and the new post restarts a actual conversation, then it's fine and the topic should be left alone . If it's clearly not relevant (say, someone asking a question that's long since been answered) and/or the new post doesn't add anything (say, a short "I agree" post), then that's a Bad Necro, and the topic should be closed.


 

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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
Apparently the Mods of this forum feel it's more useful to have multiple threads open on the same topic than it is to have related posts organized under one thread no matter how old it is. The "logic" of that will always elude me. *shrugs*
I kinda agree here.

I mean I'd happily go in and resurrect the "What are you reading" thread because it makes sense to update after a month or two or three, when people who posted there previously may have moved onto new books. Technically it's against forum rules but in terms of being a one-stop shop for people to dive in and get suggestions about what books others found good / bad it makes more sense for it to be necroed every few weeks/months rather than a new thread being started.

Of course it'd make more sense to sticky it. We have wrestling as a sticky on the Comic Book forum () but no sticky on what people are reading??


 

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Consistency is all I'd ask for out of this. *shrugs*
Not on these forums. *sigh*


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Someone here has an itchy necrolock trigger finger.
Yeah, and don't you get me started on crumbs... *blows a gasket*


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Apparently the Mods of this forum feel it's more useful to have multiple threads open on the same topic than it is to have related posts organized under one thread no matter how old it is. The "logic" of that will always elude me. *shrugs*
Logic?!

What's that?


The ad hoc style of moderation and rule enforcement 'round these parts' nowadays is almost laughable at this point. Almost.

To wit; The recent surge of DCUO related threads that have managed to escape the inane "No game other than this one even exists" rule simply because it's mostly trashing it...

How a thread can be considered 'dead' when it's only 3 weeks old, weeks in which we saw a decline in forum posting due to testing and double XP is beyond me. Even more so when said thread is an interesting and thought provoking one that continues to spur conversations.

Instead we have to abandon all the 'Good Stuff' that was already covered, create yet another thread on the topic and spend most of the posts repeating what was 'Locked' in the previous one...

Oy.


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The ad hoc style of moderation and rule enforcement 'round these parts' nowadays is almost laughable at this point. Almost.

To wit; The recent surge of DCUO related threads that have managed to escape the inane "No game other than this one even exists" rule simply because it's mostly trashing it...

And you don't think the fact that the Mod who wrote the "no game other than this one" rule is no longer working here has anything to do with it not being enforced as rigidly as it once was.


 

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There have been run in's like this on the fan art boards too. Old threads brought to life for new discussion as new art or facts are revealed and the threads get locked. If a new post is irrelevent to the threads content then sure lock it up. If not let it live. People are always complaining about others not doing searches on topics but bringing up an old thread about a topic for new ideas and debate is liable to get it locked. Furthermore, we've, on one occasion, been told we are not allowed to discuss the forum rules. To see this thread has gone on for more than one page is a bit of a surprise to me. So, in before the lock.


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There have been run in's like this on the fan art boards too. Old threads brought to life for new discussion as new art or facts are revealed and the threads get locked. If a new post is irrelevent to the threads content then sure lock it up. If not let it live. People are always complaining about others not doing searches on topics but bringing up an old thread about a topic for new ideas and debate is liable to get it locked. Furthermore, we've, on one occasion, been told we are not allowed to discuss the forum rules. To see this thread has gone on for more than one page is a bit of a surprise to me. So, in before the lock.
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