New Pack, New Thread: ANIMAL PACK
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Adam Maqil,
Posted on: 2011-02-09 20:46 in Multi-Media Fan Creations
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
 Gotta admit... I do like that ragged wolf tail! |
Am I seeing this right? We can now use tails AND belts on the same character???
(Sometimes, I wish there could be a Dev thumbs up button for quality posts, because you pretty much nailed it.) -- Ghost Falcon
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"Now" as in "for the last ten months," yes.
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
Am I seeing this right? We can now use tails AND belts on the same character???
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For a costume I threw together in 15 minutes with no prior designs or ideas and with having to "cheat" with black skin to match those damn skin legs to the fur... Yeah, more or less |
Originally Posted by Ironik
Cow Girl from the Kitchen Sink tribe?
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The trouble is, we don't really have anything which looks tribal or barbaric. We have a lot of Tech shoulders and a lot of eeevil spikes, but we don't have animal skin shoulders or weird tribal necklaces or one of those Aztec Obsidian barbed clubs or proper dried-up skulls shoulers, or a ragged chest detail of some sort, or a decent tribal belt... We lack a lot of items to work with. When I do get about to making this one on live, I'll be perusing the Costume Redesign thread, as I'm not happy with the state of that costume quite yet.
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That said, I did find my reference pics. To avoid bloating the thread, here's a series of links:
Link 1 - A decent stone hammer, feather decoration reminiscent of native Indians and a decent necklace.
Link 2 - Slightly less complex, but still a decent necklace and interesting shoulders, plus the ability to use pants with hooves.
Link 3 - Not much to say about this one.
Link 4 - Not a "cow" girl, but this one has practically everything I had in mind when I said "tribal/barbarian."
I wish e could make the bull head a little bit bulkier with a little less neck. And I wish we could give it hair, or at least a mane that could pass for hair
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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There is that one belt that's skulls and bones, looks kind of headhunter-y.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
For a costume I threw together in 15 minutes with no prior designs or ideas and with having to "cheat" with black skin to match those damn skin legs to the fur... Yeah, more or less
The trouble is, we don't really have anything which looks tribal or barbaric. We have a lot of Tech shoulders and a lot of eeevil spikes, but we don't have animal skin shoulders or weird tribal necklaces or one of those Aztec Obsidian barbed clubs or proper dried-up skulls shoulers, or a ragged chest detail of some sort, or a decent tribal belt... We lack a lot of items to work with. When I do get about to making this one on live, I'll be perusing the Costume Redesign thread, as I'm not happy with the state of that costume quite yet. |
We definitely need loincloths -- a nice plain one, one that can have patterns applied to it and a ragged one.
I'm disappointed that there isn't a "furry body" option in this pack, or at least an Animal Fur that can properly go under suits and jackets. Or a "Feather Body" for that matter. A furry/hairy body that gives a shaggy outline would be awesome for wild animal looks or even cavemen type characters.
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I thought I would post the reference I used to my Griffon costume up there.
I think in comparison it came out quite well.
I have to give the devs kudos for letting me realize my vison.
When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...
BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!
In the spirit of "We have no right to bear arms," I just realised that while we got a whole bunch of new feet, we didn't get any new hands. Not even cat's paws.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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The human hand is a marvel. If paws were better for maniuplation...|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
In the spirit of "We have no right to bear arms," I just realised that while we got a whole bunch of new feet, we didn't get any new hands. Not even cat's paws.
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We would have paws.
When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...
BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!
I was hoping earlier for a claws attack power that gave us animal claws rather than the Wolverine/Ninja ones we have now. I'm still hoping that will be added for free at some point, sooner rather than later.
But paws for hands (or paw-like hands) would've been cool. Three-fingered hands that resemble bird's feet and/or dinosaur claws would be cool, too. I was really hoping for some paws/claws/hooves for feet, though, so we could have normal legs but animal feet.
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Nope I am wrong, must have been the lighting but no claws appear..|
Originally Posted by Ironik
I was hoping earlier for a claws attack power that gave us animal claws rather than the Wolverine/Ninja ones we have now. I'm still hoping that will be added for free at some point, sooner rather than later.
But paws for hands (or paw-like hands) would've been cool. Three-fingered hands that resemble bird's feet and/or dinosaur claws would be cool, too. I was really hoping for some paws/claws/hooves for feet, though, so we could have normal legs but animal feet. |
Nevermind.
When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...
BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!
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I'm the opposite. In previous packs, each one held a bunch of pieces that could be used well outside their theme and opened a wide variety of costuming options. This pack is a far departure from that and pretty much the opposite -- unless you want to make a furry/anthropomorphic character, this pack is useless. Even the mutant pack opened more varieties than this one does. The most "creative" thing outside of making furries I've seen has been the cigar smoke trick which, while pretty cool, doesn't say much for the pack as a whole. |
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
This is something I want to make a point of. We've gotten a lot of Costume Packs over the years, and in a lot of cases they just have one or two pieces that are better than the equivalents we already had, like a better gas mask, or better rubber gloves. For the most part, I can see a few pieces I want to swap in on my existing characters, and that's about it.
The animal pack is SO much more than this! I literally CANNOT use any of the new pieces on any of my existing characters because the concepts these pieces permit are so new and unprecedented that I honestly just don't have any even attempted. Because I COULDN'T attempt any of them before, for lack of options. In fact, my Cow Girl is a design I started and abandoned because we lacked the pieces and her costume sucked. More packs like this one, please! More packs that open up more options, instead of adding redundant pieces to old options! |
It's disappointing to me because I used to enjoy seeing how all the new parts could be repurposed into other costumes but I suppose I'll just have to wait for the next (Steampunk?) booster and hope they do better.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
"Now" as in "for the last ten months," yes.
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(Sometimes, I wish there could be a Dev thumbs up button for quality posts, because you pretty much nailed it.) -- Ghost Falcon
Evocatively posed cartoon characterchures of humanoid bovine figures of the female gender for common large domesticated ungulates... who knew... 
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I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one, because I personally have never felt it necessary to use items outside of their intent, and have in fact gone out of my way to not do so. Gas Masks posing as beaks and muzzles is a big one for me - do not want.|
Originally Posted by Jophiel
It's disappointing to me because I used to enjoy seeing how all the new parts could be repurposed into other costumes
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To me, previous packs didn't really have any real "purpose" to them, they just had a few undefined sets almost exactly like all the other undefined sets we had in similar themes, but with different details. To my eyes, Organic Armour is redundant with Chitin, all the Science Pack breathers and goggles are redundant with the goggles and masks we had before. Martial Arts were more robes a lot like the more robes we had before, and Cyborg was one more tech set a lot like all the other tech sets we had before.
That's not to say those packs weren't good. Far from it - I bought and love all of them. But I never bought a costume pack before and think "Wow! I can make a character now that I couldn't make before!" At most, I thought "Well, I can replace this piece on that character with that piece from this pack." This is the first time I've found a costume pack which enabled new characters completely and entirely, as well as one which actually explored new ground, as opposed to retreading old concepts.
At least that's how I see it.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Looks like this thread has been Samuel Tow'd away.
Lets see more pictures of animals.
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I'm not talking about the beaks & muzzles bit so much as creative uses for the Martial Arts pack robes and padded armor bits, cyborg parts, even the mutant bits lend themselves to more creative applications than "Tiger head".|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one, because I personally have never felt it necessary to use items outside of their intent, and have in fact gone out of my way to not do so. Gas Masks posing as beaks and muzzles is a big one for me - do not want.
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| This is the first time I've found a costume pack which enabled new characters completely and entirely, as well as one which actually explored new ground, as opposed to retreading old concepts. |
I suppose the bright side is that they didn't include a single piece "hook" to entice me to spend money on the pack
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I understand what you mean. It is pretty limiting in its usefulness. I had pretty much the same feeling about the Mutant Pack. The only thing I could remotely see myself using was the glowing eyes of the new face, but that wasn't enough to persuade me into buying it as the other glowing eye options are good enough for me. Sadly, they also added the wolf tail in that pack at the last minute, keeping it out of this pack, which is its proper place. (I dislike the ragged wolf tail immensely -- I think it looks like a bag worm, which creeps me out.)|
Originally Posted by Jophiel
I'm not talking about the beaks & muzzles bit so much as creative uses for the Martial Arts pack robes and padded armor bits, cyborg parts, even the mutant bits lend themselves to more creative applications than "Tiger head".
It's too bad they couldn't have done so while expanding the number of options from anyone who didn't want "Tiger Head Man". Some "bestial" clothing options, weapons, etc. Prior to the pack coming out, people talked about how it'd be cool if you could use different facial parts and stuff like that. Instead we just got some disappointingly limited premolded animal heads and a couple skin patterns. |
I was hoping we'd at least be able to modify the heads so as to morph them into other animals like foxes and raccoons are such. Clawed hands would've been useful beyond anthropomorphic characters, too, as they would be suitable for demons and vampires and such. As I posted earlier, a furry body would've been applicable to creating cavemen, apes and Sean Connery clones. Still, the wolf head alone is enough to get me to buy it, as it will complete my dog character. It's not perfect, but better than the current monstrous werewolf head.
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Poptart for your sou-|
Originally Posted by Henri
Heh, well that beats ginger
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Oh. Nevermind
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by Jophiel
I'm not talking about the beaks & muzzles bit so much as creative uses for the Martial Arts pack robes and padded armor bits, cyborg parts, even the mutant bits lend themselves to more creative applications than "Tiger head".
It's too bad they couldn't have done so while expanding the number of options from anyone who didn't want "Tiger Head Man". Some "bestial" clothing options, weapons, etc. Prior to the pack coming out, people talked about how it'd be cool if you could use different facial parts and stuff like that. Instead we just got some disappointingly limited premolded animal heads and a couple skin patterns. I suppose the bright side is that they didn't include a single piece "hook" to entice me to spend money on the pack |
Have you seen the Beastial Fury aura?
Its totally power armor/Iron man-esque.
Other than the breath, I can't tell you what it has to do with animals.
When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...
BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!
And just to prove I'm not here to disrupt, here's a remake of that "tech werewolf" people were suggesting in the Costume Request thread, now with an actual wolf head:
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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While I'm super happy with this pack the fact that these new parts don't seem to open up new costume options has me slightly disappointed. Pieces like the shoulder fur and the Valkeriye belt opened up so many costume options across so many genres that the first thing I do when a new booster is released is look for that new piece that will inspire me to create costumes I've never created before.
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Originally Posted by Jophiel
In previous packs, each one held a bunch of pieces that could be used well outside their theme and opened a wide variety of costuming options.
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Seriously... the chest option beats like a heartbeat. (*visually! There's no sound. I didn't want to create confusion there)|
Originally Posted by Test_Rat
Have you seen the Beastial Fury aura?
Its totally power armor/Iron man-esque. Other than the breath, I can't tell you what it has to do with animals. |
That is going to get a lot of use for non-beast/animal characters.
So, yeah... So far, Jophiel, the only thing in this pack for you is the Beastial Aura.
But hey, not every pack is for every person and all.
Both you and Samuel see the pack the same way... You just disagree on whether its difference is a good thing or a bad thing!
@Zethustra
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There's also this following black wolf:
At first it may seem like nothing special, just a black wolf, but it makes sense within context, because it would be the the third transformation of Artegor, my vampire-inspired character. That's one easy use right there, and that alone would sell the pack for me, were it not for my as of yet unnamed literal cow girl.
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I really like how the mouth and eyes stand out against the black fur. I just wish we could use eye auras with those new heads.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
And just to prove I'm not here to disrupt, here's a remake of that "tech werewolf" people were suggesting in the Costume Request thread, now with an actual wolf head:
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1) Give us bigger feet options like that on the normal models
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2) Make the wolf head bigger on the huge model. Because right now it looks derpy.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I'm also disappointed that there aren't any lobster parts. Or walrus.