Kevin Feige THOR Interview
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Posted on: 2011-02-09 15:24 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Good stuff. Really looking forward to this and the continuation of the Marvel Studios movies (and of course the reversion of their other characters back to them. *shakes fist angrily at Fox and Sony*)
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Dangit, May, get here already!
I would say that the Thor outfit in the movie is from the recent JMS run and not the Kirby / Simonson run.
Also, as far as what else could be in Odin's Vault, don't forget that the Infinity Gauntlet appeared in the Marvel 'booth' at San Diego last year....
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Originally Posted by Kevin Feige The comic book wins, in most cases. Were going with the theory in the comics which is there, in your face, and sometimes it isnt, that these are being who live in another realm, who live on another planet, who had a way to travel to here and has traveled here in the past. Specifically, a thousand some odd years ago, in which the locals interpreted them as gods and started mimicking some of their clothing and some of their helmet and weapon designs. But they didnt have access to the building materials that Asgardians did so they made it out of wood and horns and fur. Thats not a whole lot of this movie, but thats a lot of the backstory that were coming from. Which is why Odins bed, there, for the Odin sleep, yes theres sort of a Viking-esque [feel]. The head of the bed there, the Viking-esque longboat ends. But they werent inspired by the Vikings, the Vikings were inspired by them. and Originally Posted by Producer: Craig Kyle Once you step inside the observatory, you basically tell Heimdall where you want to go. The sword Heimdall uses is not only used to defend Asgard, but its also the key to this device. We looked at Tony Stark and that movie, Iron Man had holograms and was stepping inside virtual worlds. Asgardians have kind of been there, done that when it comes to that kind of stuff. So for them to send you across the universe its as easy as turning a key. Its why its a system of gears and wheels. Its a machine. Their technology is only as sophisticated as it needs to be to do extraordinary things. Once youve said youre going to go, the outside of this building begins to spin around, while the inside is stable and the rainbow bridge pumps energy inside this place. Then this major steeple that fills up the top here begins to lower and it points in the direction of the destination of the world you choose to go to. You step out on the edge and BOOM! Youre fired across the universe. You get the rainbow bridge when you arrive or leave Asgard, but when you want to get from this side of the universe to ours, you need to step through this gun that will fly you across the universe. |
Back when they did the Hulk TV movie, I always felt that they reason they made Thor into a viking king trying to earn his way into Valhalla was because the various TV censors didn't like the idea of the character actually being a deity, one who had been worshipped. I imagined that the various religious sorts would take offense to their children seeing a non-Christian deity on television. (Before you say I'm crazy, I'll point out that the Power Rangers movie had movie critics complaining and saying that they were uncomfortable with their children being exposed to shamanistic ideas, as if it would warp their young minds.)
I had wondered how the movie would handle that. Again, I didn't imagine that they would want to specifically call Thor an actual g o d. Well, it seems that they decided to go with "they're space aliens."
I imagine that Thor's mystic bond with Mjolnir-- which even the Celestials found worthy of respect-- will now be explained as Mjolnir being a very well-programmed piece of equipment.
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I think it's a reasonable way to have a movie that takes place in the slightly more realistic universe that Marvel is creating out of their Avengers franchise, but I agree it is on shaky ground. I would have felt more comfortable being from an alternate plane or something, rather than just a straight up alien. At the very least, it raises my pet peeve question of why does he look exactly like a human, then? Maybe there'll be a bit more nuance to it in the movie.
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Originally Posted by Arnabas
This right here turns me off a bit...
... I had wondered how the movie would handle that. Again, I didn't imagine that they would want to specifically call Thor an actual g o d. Well, it seems that they decided to go with "they're space aliens." I imagine that Thor's mystic bond with Mjolnir-- which even the Celestials found worthy of respect-- will now be explained as Mjolnir being a very well-programmed piece of equipment. |
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Well, given that they mention that Dr Strange will tap into the supernatural part of the Marvel Movie Universe, why not have some of that now?|
Originally Posted by james_joyce
I think it's a reasonable way to have a movie that takes place in the slightly more realistic universe that Marvel is creating out of their Avengers franchise, but I agree it is on shaky ground. I would have felt more comfortable being from an alternate plane or something, rather than just a straight up alien. At the very least, it raises my pet peeve question of why does he look exactly like a human, then? Maybe there'll be a bit more nuance to it in the movie.
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Seriously, I have always loved Norse mythology (and mythology in general) and I wish they wouldn't take this approach, which seems to render it much less... epic, IMO.
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I'm guessing it's because there's been a fair amount of speculation about ancient gods possibly being aliens going about in the real world. History channel has a series on the subject.
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Originally Posted by Arnabas
Well, given that they mention that Dr Strange will tap into the supernatural part of the Marvel Movie Universe, why not have some of that now?
Seriously, I have always loved Norse mythology (and mythology in general) and I wish they wouldn't take this approach, which seems to render it much less... epic, IMO. |
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Originally Posted by Arnabas
Well, it seems that they decided to go with "they're space aliens."
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I was always under the impression that the Marvel pantheons (Norse, Greek, etc.) were supposed to be some sort of nigh-immortal cosmic beings who also just happened to be worshipped by the people of Earth. (Alex Ross's Earth X series and its sequels twisted that idea to some extent, saying that Odin was originally a mortal who came upon a race of shapeshifting aliens and molded their bodies and minds to suit his own whims and ambitions, eventually becoming nearly immortal as they were.)
Having the Asgardians be "aliens" from some other dimension/higher plane of existence doesn't necessarily invalidate their status as gods compared to the people of Midgard.
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I agree....if in the times of vikings Odin and Thor etc set foot on Earth....would they not been seen as "gods" to those people???....even if they were alien...they would still be worshipped and placed in that place by man...as man evolves through the ages...well..they would be further engrained as gods...
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Originally Posted by Hazmatter
I was always under the impression that the Marvel pantheons (Norse, Greek, etc.) were supposed to be some sort of nigh-immortal cosmic beings who also just happened to be worshipped by the people of Earth. (Alex Ross's Earth X series and its sequels twisted that idea to some extent, saying that Odin was originally a mortal who came upon a race of shapeshifting aliens and molded their bodies and minds to suit his own whims and ambitions, eventually becoming nearly immortal as they were.)
Having the Asgardians be "aliens" from some other dimension/higher plane of existence doesn't necessarily invalidate their status as gods compared to the people of Midgard. |
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I understand that, but there is a difference between being seen as gods and actually being gods. One is a mythical, supernatural being. The other is an advanced being going "lol, noobs".
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Originally Posted by The_Fallen_Angel
I agree....if in the times of vikings Odin and Thor etc set foot on Earth....would they not been seen as "gods" to those people???....even if they were alien...they would still be worshipped and placed in that place by man...as man evolves through the ages...well..they would be further engrained as gods...
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I don't see why those have to be mutually exclusive.
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Originally Posted by Arnabas
I understand that, but there is a difference between being seen as gods and actually being gods. One is a mythical, supernatural being. The other is an advanced being going "lol, noobs".
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They're still gods in normal Marvel continuity. Them being aliens is from the Ultimates universe. The movies continuity seems to be a mash up of the two.
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Oh, is this where someone trots out that "Any sufficiently advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic" line? |
Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
I don't see why those have to be mutually exclusive.
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Not really, it's just what definition of a mythical, supernatural being can't include being an advanced extra-planar/alien being?
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Originally Posted by Furio
Oh, is this where someone trots out that "Any sufficiently advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic" line?
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Exactly my point. It's just a matter of perspective.
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Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
Not really, it's just what definition of a mythical, supernatural being can't include being an advanced extra-planar/alien being?
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The great thing about Marvel Lore is that the DO make a specific distinction of advance science and real magic.|
Originally Posted by Cynical_Gamer
Not really, it's just what definition of a mythical, supernatural being can't include being an advanced extra-planar/alien being?
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I'm not saying it's advanced science though.
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A rather comprehensive Kevin Feige THOR Interview which goes into great detail about Thor, current Marvel movies and teases about a 2nd 2012 Marvel IP project and another in 2013 (all live-action).
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Courtesy: Collider.com.
Tasty titbits teased include;
The script for Thor called for about 50/50, maybe 60/40 Asgard to Earth (meaning a lot of the movie doesnt take place on Earth)
J. Michael Straczynskis work is their inspiration of the Earth-bound stuff, confirms Destroyer and that he appears in a number of key scenes throughout the movie. Also they arent straying too far from the comic.
The Frost Giants play a major role in Thor
Odins Vault is a big part of Thor and it also figures prominently into other Marvel movies. Feige says, Odins vault which is where a number of the most dangerous relics of the nine realms are kept. He went onto say, There are a couple of key McGuffins kept in here which lead to the story of the movie and even the story of other movies.