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It was BaBs.|
Originally Posted by RaikenX
I see this and it brings to mind an old quote (and one i believe someone had sigged) by BaBs, i believe.
"Did you just use "casual player" and "purpled out warshade" in the same sentence?" LOL....still gets me to this day. |
And yes, mine was done casually.
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Ah, but if you're running a top-tier toon you can pick up the slack yourself.|
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
If anyone has a right to be picky about who joins the team, I think I'm it. I either run with a fully purple setted warshade (Thanks to Organica), a softcapped to S/L/Ranged bots/traps that can solo anything he fancies that day, or the Dark Armor Tank that Sucks (solos +4/x8 Malta/Carnies).
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If the OP had been trying to join a team that already had a pimped out bots/traps they wouldn't have been begging for debuffs.
I ran 2 LRSFs last night.
Team 1 - my bots/traps, a dark miasma, a stormie and a rad. And some blaster and melee for the ride. We did the last fight old-school, pull to the top of the globe and duke it out. We wiped twice but completed in 90 minutes, very respectable.
Team 2 - some melee, a couple of blasters, a permadom and a crab. The permadom had trouble sleeping and pulling AVs individually. We didn't have enough debuff to duke it out, after several wipes we ended up not completing the TF.
Team composition does matter, if your DA tank had been there instead of (e.g.) one of the scrappers the team would have completed. A rad or trapper with just SOs would have put us over the top. A bubbler with -defence... not so much.
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yeah...but IIRC BaBs made the crack at someone that was b*tching about something that would be problematic, or at least difficult to achieve for a "casual player" like himself and not a hardcore player. Then he mentioned his WS.|
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
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Oh...and he's not IO'd out or anything...but...I also defied the curse. Loved my entire 1-50 trip with my WS.
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There are people who don't love their WS to bitty-bits?|
Originally Posted by RaikenX
Oh...and he's not IO'd out or anything...but...I also defied the curse. Loved my entire 1-50 trip with my WS.
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My WS was my second 50, and I played her almost straight through (straight for me, anyway) I took a long enough break that my WS skilz atrophied, so I'm worried about taking her into the high level stuff again. I'm an extremely casual, alterific, cash poor player, and she's pretty much my only set IOed toon.
I'm beginning my first forays into the market, maybe when I feel like I have inf, I'll set her up with something obscenely nice. She deserves it.
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Seems like you may still be missing the point some folks have tried to make. The team in question was apparently looking for rad/ (Radiation Emission), not /rad (Radiation Blast), in their desired Defender. And while /rad DOES contain some debuff, it's honestly insignificant compared to those in rad/. Since they may already have been looking at a team-wide defense soft-cap, your Force Field primary might very easily have been useless to their existing team composition.|
Originally Posted by Zombeh_Defendar
to most people saying stuff like i was just angry because they didnt pick me thats not it i was fine that they didnt need -def but then they claim all the sudden that /rad isnt debuff and thats why im angry
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In any case, I've never personally been too upset by a team rejection. If they are looking for something specific that I don't provide, they'll be prone to getting butt-hurt about not having it, and taking it out on me, if the TF goes South. And while I personally enjoy the laughs, such things are not for everyone. Most prefer to avoid the annoyance.
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Well yeah. Because, y'know, all the teleporting you do in combat... right?..|
Originally Posted by shaggy5
Once, a long time ago, I was kicked from a synapse because my emp/ was using tp as a travel power and the leader in the second mish realized that and said it was an end hog and I shouldn't be so stupid. Then I was kicked. Fun stuff.
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Another fine 20/20 hindsight view of a team you didn't actually want to be on in the first place, if you ask me.
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Heh, my wife's Mercs/TA MM is quite popular on teams. |
Originally Posted by RaikenX
Flipside of that, though, is i got invited to a few teams that found out i wasn't a healer but didn't kick me off the team, though a comment or 2 about how TA sucks flashed across the screen. At least until the found themselves steamrolling over mobs cuz they were debuffed to high Hades. One team in particular didn't even realize what was happening at first, and this was a "TA Sucks" team. The started putting mobs down alot faster and actually asked me "these things are dying ALOT faster...is that cuz of you?"
"Yyyyup" "TA ROCKS!" made my effin day |
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I have a WP/axe/stone tank that does -def, I would never call it a "debuff" set even though I can keep quicksand double stacked with no effort. My claws/regen/fire scrapper has melt armor, but I wouldnt call him a debuffer either.
I think the point zombeh is missing is that the team needed debuff, and they wanted a bunch of it.
Whats next, we going to debate if a defender with tough/weave/provoke can be a tank? Having a few of the desired abilities is not the same as being focused on those abilities.
Looking through these threads, I'm a bit shocked that no one turned down my rad emission/archery defender for the Khan TFs a couple of weeks back...and did I say at the time she was lvl 42-44?
That was when I was starting to realize just how powerful rad could be...until then, had been using my arrows most of the time (so guessing I was taken for a blaster) with no one saying anything...
Of course, of all my defenders, only one is emp/psi. The rest are debuffers (with the exclusion of one bubble defender I take out once in a blue moon)...I think a lot of it is that quite a few people see the emp defenders and equate that with the healing class or buffing class, then think ALL defenders should be like that.
And rad emission can be deadly! Don't believe me, ask the mobs I helped steamroll with my friend's emp/dark defender last night!
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This is about Rad Blast though, not Rad emission.|
Originally Posted by DemonCaller
Looking through these threads, I'm a bit shocked that no one turned down my rad emission/archery defender for the Khan TFs a couple of weeks back...and did I say at the time she was lvl 42-44?
That was when I was starting to realize just how powerful rad could be...until then, had been using my arrows most of the time (so guessing I was taken for a blaster) with no one saying anything... Of course, of all my defenders, only one is emp/psi. The rest are debuffers (with the exclusion of one bubble defender I take out once in a blue moon)...I think a lot of it is that quite a few people see the emp defenders and equate that with the healing class or buffing class, then think ALL defenders should be like that. And rad emission can be deadly! Don't believe me, ask the mobs I helped steamroll with my friend's emp/dark defender last night! |
I don't anyone sane would try and claim Rad Emission isn't a debuff set
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Ummmm... minimum level for Khan TF is 45.
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Originally Posted by DemonCaller
Looking through these threads, I'm a bit shocked that no one turned down my rad emission/archery defender for the Khan TFs a couple of weeks back...and did I say at the time she was lvl 42-44?
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Wait, you played a defender into the 40s and just started to notice how effective your primary was?
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Originally Posted by DemonCaller
That was when I was starting to realize just how powerful rad could be...until then, had been using my arrows most of the time (so guessing I was taken for a blaster) with no one saying anything...
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If a team felt that LGTF couldn't be done effectively with /rad, you are better off for being left behind. That team was flawed and bound to fail due to pure stupid.
Let. it. die. There's no need to keep bumping this thread.
Speaking from the stand point of my main being a sonic/sonic defender, I know what it's like to have gotten onto a team and then kicked off because I wasn't a "healer" or "useful".
/rad workes amazingly. I havent played it in quite some time, but /rad was great not only fo rlowbies, but missions with plus 4X8. it is a debuff because honestly...if you aren't hitting them...then you arent doing damage, which is the whole point. Dont take it personally.
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Originally Posted by Muse to my Ears
Speaking from the stand point of my main being a sonic/sonic defender, I know what it's like to have gotten onto a team and then kicked off because I wasn't a "healer" or "useful".
/rad workes amazingly. I havent played it in quite some time, but /rad was great not only fo rlowbies, but missions with plus 4X8. it is a debuff because honestly...if you aren't hitting them...then you arent doing damage, which is the whole point. Dont take it personally. |
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
Let. it. die. There's no need to keep bumping this thread.
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Much of what I would say has been said.
I do want to add that Rad/ is hard to screw up debuffs. I think that may be why someone was picky about the type of debuffs for the last spot on a team. I know folks get picky on the "failable" TFs. PUGs can be great or trainwrecks. The team leader probably wanted to up his chances when dealing with the unknown.
Personally, I'd alt to my Fire/Rad if I needed debuffs for a team I'm forming and let someone bring what they wanted. Heck, my Earth/Storm (troller) can melt AV defenses, resistance, and ToHit. A lot of auto-hit or near auto hit debuffs and, if all hit, the defense is reduced almost 20% after AV DDR. No -Regen, though.