Winter Lord In Nova Praetoria Spawned Near Contact
The one outside the market in Nova is bad too. If you are inside when it spawns you have no way of knowing until you step out and get plastered without even a chance to defend yourself (no powers coming out and I was dead before I could see my surroundings). I suppose all it cost me was a quick trip to the hospital and some patrol xp but it was annoying.
There are other equally bad present locations everywhere.
One of many reasons I'm none too fond of the winter event. (That and some 50s that apparently get their giggles off spawning the WL and a horde of Winter Horde - at level 50 - in Atlas, Galaxy, and Mercy. I've eaten plenty of debt coming around the corner and hitting one, or right over one - one hit from a WL, well, can usually deal with. One hit, plus ten Horde? Insta-death. I spend far too much time in game playing "cleanup" and finding somewhere to drone these things. Yes, on a lowbie. Thank you Nemesis Staff for giving me the range to do so.)
I've actually been 'performing a free service' for peeps in [Union] Paragon city. My heoric widow is up to 145% of positional defense with her elude and mindlink up so I've been taunting the WL G.M.s to nearby drones or WW. I'm five for five so far (she's not died doing it but come close a couple of times). A few friends have mentioned a WL spawn and I just alt to my widow. One thought I'd managed to solo a WL when I'd just taunted him to the drones outside the Hollows entrance in Atlas Park. It's a fun little mini-game I've been playing
I don't blame the G-Ms since they're NCSoft and probably a) have all the NCSoft MMOs to monitor and b) get about 90% junk petitions from all those games to sift through. It wouldn't hurt to have a specialist or two whose main game is City of Heroes though.
And yes; it is very annoying when WLs don't despawn after a certain amount of time.
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I got plastered by one in Port Oakes, it was hidden around the corner of the VG registrar building, from the direction I was coming, I didn't see him till it was too late. One would figure they'd have drones around that building...
i usually kill winter lords i see with my ill/cold troller, since he can solo them with relative easy
although this one time i was on a diff toon at the time running tips and i happened upon a WL in shark and of course scrappy had just spawned not too far from him so i pulled scrappy to the winter lord and watched them duke it out for a good 10 min, then i broadcasted on channels that they were fighting, so im sure poeple formed up to kill them by the time i was leaving to go to next mish

Yeah the locations of the presents need to be looked at. Because one has been spawning right by Nightstar in Imperial City. The ugly thing is that this is also right next to the train station. So not only can you not use the trainer, anyone wanting to use, or comming out of the train in the zone is insta squished.
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Yeah the locations of the presents need to be looked at. Because one has been spawning right by Nightstar in Imperial City. The ugly thing is that this is also right next to the train station. So not only can you not use the trainer, anyone wanting to use, or comming out of the train in the zone is insta squished.
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As for the Market, they should allow you to exit the building through the back doors.
The other night there was a level 20 Frostling in the Loyalist Lounge in Nova Praetoria. My poor newbie loyalist got squished a few times trying to get to the contact there.
Since player powers are disabled in the loyalist lounge, I wasn't even able to log on to a higher level character and kill it. Eventually, I teamed with one of my husband's characters so it would be deep grey to me.
I finally got a GM response in my e-mail box about 11am the next day, 14 hours or so after the petition. It said the Frostling was gone now.

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And that's why the need to ditch the stupid tethering thing, and use Clockwork as Drones.
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And indoor areas should be a insta-kill dead zone to mobs like the WW/BM ground is.
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I bet it looked a lot like this...
I was on my Stalker, so it was no biggie, but I bet some folks were ticked!!!
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Wow. That's the worst one I've seen.

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The gift next to the Ouro location in FF (across from the Train) gets that a lot as well. It seems to be the most clicked present in the zone, probably because people zone in, see it, click it "just because" it's right there, and move on.
Luckily, the drones are nearby if people want to get rid of it though.
Yeah, I had that happen to me last year - one was standing right on top of Vitaly Cherenko, before I got his phone number. Fortunately, I managed to get myself close enough to talk to him before I was shot down, and being dead doesn't stop you from talking to contacts.
I understand your concerns about the spawn locations of the winter presents and the possibility of the snowmen spawned there. Though the Developers have tried to randomly scatter these presents, some are close to contacts and other important locations.
"If you are looking for a trainer or store in Praetoria, they are located in multiple places so, for now, if there is a winter spawn near one of these NPCs, you should be able to find an alternate. If you would like to search for more information on this subject, or if you would like to post your thoughts for your fellow players and the Development Team to read, please feel free to do so at https://boards.cityofheroes.com. " |
The above response that Kheldarn posted about was almost exactly the same response Charybdis Clan got when they sent off a petition about it. Charybdis didn't mention a thing about a store or trainer, only about the contact and the entrance. I was the unfortunate (on a Level 4 Corruptor) who discovered the proximity in the first place and died before getting anywhere NEAR the entrance. Needless to say, I had ZERO-Chance of taking down a WL spawn with a metric-****ton of red and purple Frostlings at his side.
It wasn't the location that outraged me, it was the fact that the AI tether makes him practically undefeatable if he runs. We four smacked on that SOB for nearly 20 minutes just to get him to 20% and then all our hard work was undone in an instant.
Don't get me wrong now, I do like the Winter event... but there needs to be some kind of limit to where the spawns can happen.
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The presents in Praetoria almost seem designed with griefing in mind. I mean, who thought it was honestly a good idea to put a present next to nightstar so that 8 man teams can run by, click it, summon an 8 man spawn of Winter horde and then run off to let the lowbies deal with it/kill anyone training?
Praetoria NEEDS drones. This is a huge oversight. One of my first sights upon returning to the game recently was several level 50 frostlings swarming around Praetor Duncan after some level 50's dragged them there.
But even the drones don't always work. There was some guy a couple days back who dragged the Winter Lord to under Atlas from the present spawn in the park across from the main steps. I guess that was one way to get people to fight him.
Really the biggest problem is the frostlings. Theres really no reason why they should spawn from the Winter Lord at the level of whoever was nearby. Devs, please look into using GM coding for these things next event.
I had a WL spawn on me during the Great escape event in Neutropolis. Suffice it to say I did not complete the event, but I did succeed in nearly putting my fist through my screen.
On Triumph, I got so fed up with the one that was spawned by Interrogator Washington that I logged into my 50 and was able to call in reinforcements to help take it out. It was actually there for about a week. There was no way to see that contact without getting taken out and it is unfair to new players who need that contact for their Loyalist arc. I'm more than willing to volunteer to help clean these up, but something must be done to prevent them from being able to spawn so close to contacts.
A Winter Lord spawned in Nova Praetoria near Chief Interrogator Washington. That makes it almost 100% impossible to talk to him without the Winter Lord noticing you, and killing you. The same thing applies to Specialist Harrison.

The location of the Mystery Present that is in front of the steps where Washington and Harrison are should be moved, or the Clockwork should act as Drones.
I used /petition in an attempt to get the Winter Lord despawned, and GM Leivon had no idea what was going on (I know, surprise, right?). This was thier insightful reply:
I understand your concerns about the spawn locations of the winter presents and the possibility of the snowmen spawned there. Though the Developers have tried to randomly scatter these presents, some are close to contacts and other important locations.
"If you are looking for a trainer or store in Praetoria, they are located in multiple places so, for now, if there is a winter spawn near one of these NPCs, you should be able to find an alternate.
If you would like to search for more information on this subject, or if you would like to post your thoughts for your fellow players and the Development Team to read, please feel free to do so at https://boards.cityofheroes.com. "
Not once did I mention a store or trainer. I specifically mentioned Washington and Contact. Seriously, people who actualy PLAY CoH need to be hired for Support GM positions. At least then, they'd have a ******* clue.
The whole "tether" thing is stupid, and leads to issues like this. Please, drop the tethering, and have the Clockwork act as Drones. Really, it makes the most sense.
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