Spiderman reboot teaser pic
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Posted on: 2011-01-13 15:34 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Originally Posted by Mothers_Love
Good grief, It makes you wonder why Marvel hypes up the film as much as it does in conjunction with Columbia. If the studio ever does get back the franchise I wonder what they'd do with it differently as a 100% Marvel property, I mean... Avi Arad, Kevin Feige, Stan Lee, Gale Ann Hurd and the usual crowd are usually involved anyway in one way or another as executives whatever studio is producing, and I remember those guys hyping up the Ang Lee 'Hulk' as revolutionary and the best thing since sliced bread, the definative version... before it flopped, only to be involved in the subsequent reboot as well. A lot of the same people from Marvel are involved every.single.time.
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1: The Ang Lee flick didn't "flop". It netted a hundred million plus (production costs: $137 mil, revenues $245 mil. Was it some runaway blockbuster like Star Wars, or Spider-Man that more than quadrupled production costs in ticket sales? No. But by no means was it a "flop". I don't give a damn WHAT Avi Arad said after the fact.
Note: I'm not saying the film was a GOOD Hulk flick. Simply that calling it a flop isn't an accurate assessment of the film.
2: Do you SERIOUSLY expect Marvel to bad-mouth a partner? Really? The first time they did that would see them blacklisted so hard and fast it wouldn't even be funny.
Also, remember, Marvel's name, whether they produce it or not, is STILL going to be attached to the film. They're going to try to talk it up as much as possible to boost revenues and not make themselves look like they're saying "Yeah, we made some crap for you. Now give us money."
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I still don't understand why it is a reboot. With the Hulk, it was obvious why they were rebooting it so quick, I mean, giant poodles and suck are all I remember from the first movie, but the Spiderman movies have been (mostly) good.
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Wait...you think that a highly intelligent teenager making webshooters is implausible, but a bite from a radioactive spider that creates natural webshooting from his wrists (not from his rear, which is where it should be if he's a spider) is plausible?
| But I absolutely disagree with web-shooters If they ever went down that path. Stan's original concept or not... It just doesn't make sense for a teenage schoolboy to be capable of inventing a scientific breakthrough like infinite supply of super-strong webbing and its practicle application through wrist-shooters in his bedroom. Totally dumb idea - just-don't-go-there. >.< |
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It's a reboot in the same sense that a comic gets "rebooted" when a different writer picks up the title and does something different with it, ignoring things that previous writers did because it doesn't fit in to the new story.
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Originally Posted by Gaderath
I still don't understand why it is a reboot. With the Hulk, it was obvious why they were rebooting it so quick, I mean, giant poodles and suck are all I remember from the first movie, but the Spiderman movies have been (mostly) good.
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Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
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This is why I can't wait till Marvel Studios gets teh rights to all their characters again. So these other hacks stop making craptacular films with my beloved marvel characters. I will say the 1st 2 spider films were pretty decent though. First 2 X-men I could live with as well.
So looking forward to Thor and Captain America.
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
It's a reboot in the same sense that a comic gets "rebooted" when a different writer picks up the title and does something different with it, ignoring things that previous writers did because it doesn't fit in to the new story.
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That doesn't usually involve starting from scratch though. They may not acknowledge what came before, but very rarely do they start the character at square one again.
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Tell that to Grant Morrison. "What? You want me to write a happy, sane Batman? **** that. Pass the shrooms"
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Originally Posted by Furio
That doesn't usually involve starting from scratch though. They may not acknowledge what came before, but very rarely do they start the character at square one again.
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Actually, for Morrison it means everything is in continuity. Love that approach.
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Originally Posted by JoeKent
Tell that to Grant Morrison. "What? You want me to write a happy, sane Batman? **** that. Pass the shrooms"
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I'm of the opposite opinion. Suit looks fine, dude in it looks like he stepped off a Panic! At the Disco album cover.
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Originally Posted by Xzero45
Like the actor. Don't like the suit.
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First off, Parker is intelligent... but he is no Stark-level genius innovator, so no, I don't subscribe to that as a plausible idea (which is probably the reason why Raimi also went the mutant spider-glands on wrists route)... and you're not seriously saying said mutant route is not accurate artistically because he's not shooting webbing from his butt? - are you?.|
Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Wait...you think that a highly intelligent teenager making webshooters is implausible, but a bite from a radioactive spider that creates natural webshooting from his wrists (not from his rear, which is where it should be if he's a spider) is plausible?
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Ahahaha hahahah... too funny!.
Dear god, that new costume is ugly as sin.
I'm more jazzed than ever about this film after seeing the new suit. I think I'm looking forward to this more than I ever did any of the previous Spider-Man films. Judging from the one film I've seen of his, Marc Webb is a pretty good director and Andrew Garfield is, other than Joseph Gordon-Levitt, the best young actor out there right now.
Now, hopefully the story will be good...
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I always took that as one of the angsty parts of Spiderman. He actually was smart enough to be a great scientist or talented enough to be a great photographer, but was so obsessed with his responsibility as Spiderman that he never pursued anything else.|
Originally Posted by Mothers_Love
First off, Parker is intelligent... but he is no Stark-level genius innovator, so no, I don't subscribe to that as a plausible idea
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Also, having to buy the stuff to make his own web fluid was a great aspect to Peter's "everyman" hero archetype. But then I get a bit defensive whenever someone pulls out the argument of "oh, that's too silly for movies". That's the kinda reasoning that led to us almost having a Superman movie where he doesn't fly and wears a light-up costume.
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I dunno... having Reed Richards look at some of his work, shake his head in amazement and then basically say "wow, this guy is gifted... he could have had an incredible scientific career" (paraphrased because it was so long ago I forget the real quote) kind of makes me think he's up there with the top minds in Marvel. I mean, if Mr Fantastic is impressed with your work, it's good...|
Originally Posted by Mothers_Love
First off, Parker is intelligent... but he is no Stark-level genius innovator, so no, I don't subscribe to that as a plausible idea (which is probably the reason why Raimi also went the mutant spider-glands on wrists route).
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I also tend to think of a real life example of brilliant teens from a few years ago, when a highschool girl took first prize at a science fair and one of the sponsors basically said "wow, she managed to do at home what our top scientists have been trying to do in the lab for years..." (I really need to uncover that article again to quote it properly, but it was very close to that). So, I can accept Peter creating web-shooters.
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I still say the way they did it in Ultimate Spider-Man was the best. The web fluid was actually the last thing Peter's dad was working on when he died, so Peter spent years trying to finish it. So he was Spider-Man for a while before he accomplished that feat, then figured out how to turn it into web fluid.|
Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
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Which handily kills two birds with one stone; it shows Peter being smart and persistent, but not like a complete runaway genius on the order of reed Richards. He was just obsessing about this one thing and finally cracked it, then discovered he could make it work with his new persona.
I also liked the fact that he had to husband the use and if he ran out he would be hosed because it was neither cheap nor easy to make.
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While I don't have a problem with the look of the costume, I have a problem with it not being Spiderman's first costume. Spiderman is the poor everyday superhero that doesn't have access to advanced resources like Batman or Iron Man. Basically he is the geeky loner that eventually becomes a successful superhero and marries a hot model. Spiderman seems to have more of a connection to the majority of comic fans than other iconic superheroes. OMD does not exist as far as I am concerned. The costume would be fine if it was Spiderman 4 or 5 since by then he could establish connections with various well-funded superhero organizations to provide him a better costume, but not as his first costume.
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Web-shooters???
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Common history..it is always done, as you said...hell they do not even need to release the films to keep it.|
Originally Posted by Talia_Rayvyn
To clarify:
* Marvel does not retain the film rights to Spiderman or the X-men movie franchises. Spiderman is owned by Columbia Pictures, the X-men is owned by 20th Century Fox. * It is not Marvel that is rebooting Spiderman it is Columbia Pictures. * It is not Marvel that is rebooting the X-men it is 20th Century Fox. * Spiderman will not be meeting the Avengers or any other film property that is owned by Marvel because they are different film companies. This includes and applies to the X-men since they are owned by Fox. * The reason Spiderman is being rebooted is because Columbia needs to bring out a Spiderman movie by <X> date or else the contract would automatically revert back to Marvel and they can no longer make any Spiderman movies. (The X-men fall under the same deal which is why they are making X-men First Class). * Neither Columbia nor Fox care that they reboot the movie or if the movies end up making the Marvel comic characters look bad, they just want money and also know that almost all of the movie public are going to relate the bad rebooted movies to Marvel and not them (as seen above). * When Spiderman and the X-men's film license are up and the properties revert back to Marvel, expect Marvel films to reboot the series again |
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Like the actor. Don't like the suit.