Me, a Master of Run and Temp Powers

They may not be required but there is a massive problem when one side (heroes) never have to enter a PVP zone for accolades yet villains do. It doesn't really matter if they aren't required. One side should not be forced into PVP zones if the other side isn't.

The badges he listed are all for completing PvE tasks while in a PvP zone. thats the ultimate issue here...

Originally Posted by VoodooGirl [*]Watching out for the Spinning Disco Portal of D00M!*

Those are PvE tasks designed to include the PvP risk. There is no "ultimate issue" here.

PvE tasks like... getting accolades... that heroes don't have to risk PvP for?

You're saying things like Demonic Aura and Born in Battle are balanced with the calculated PvP risk -- but only for villains?

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

I'll admit the accolades seem odd, but the discussion that's been relevant to the OP was the temporary powers.

Born in Battle looks a heck of a lot easier than the Portal Jockey bagde to gain. Give me a quick run in 3 PvP zones over having the ensure you beat the entire Praetorian gang.

The other 2 however, look tons harder, even without the PvP visits.

The devs should do nothing.
If you don't want to risk getting attacked, stay out of the PvP zones.
If you want those badges, you risk being attacked.
Deal.

Sure there is.
But killing someone is, by definition, the purpose of the zone and not in any way griefing.

Well, ya know, it doesn't matter if it seems like griefing to you.
Also, the OP said he was getting attacked each time he had a code. If it was taking him more than 5 minutes, then the 'ganker' was indeed getting a rep reward and possible drops each time. Even if it wasn't more than 5 minutes, he was STILL getting a reward - the code.

I would just point out that a BB meteor shard (or WB launch code) drops to the player who wins the PVP battle.

It is entirely possible to kit yourself out with a full set of shards/codes purely through PVP.

It's also entirely possible to do it through PvE without fighting anyone. That makes it PvE content! Whee!

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

No it's not. If it were PvE content, you couldn't get attacked while doing it.

WHEEEEEEEEEEE!

It is neither purely PVE or pure PVP is the point.

Describing it as either is just incorrect.

Let's call it PVX!

Or maize.

Yeah the HARDEST part for my Crab Spider in obtaining Born in Battle was Ironwomen... I was beginning to wonder if I'd ever endure 1 milion in damage to get that.. Of course that's another thing I LOVE (please note sarcasm) about the difference between getting Hero and Villain Accolades with powers. Almost ever hero accolade requires a certain number of Exploration badges, a history plaque, a mission badge or two and a few defeats. Villain Accolades rerquire you to TAKE DAMAGE? Okay we all take damage but they couldn't think of anything else to require for an accolade besides "Go out and let them pound on you a while" Oh and of course let's not foget High Pain Threshold requires that you pay off 200,000 in debt to earn the accolade. Not that 200,000 is a huge amount of debt to erase but once again in order to obtain a Villain Accolade you are basically being told "Go out and get killed" But But But .. Gee Doctor Aeon I thought the idea was for me to defeat our enemies. Why am I being granted a reward for LOSING to them? LOL

Pretty much this.

I can't think of a single thing in the game any of those badges, accolades, temp powers, or anything else are actually REQUIRED for.

There is no Task Force in existence that can't be run without a certain accolade. (Alpha slot, yes, but that in no way involves PvP)

The badges and temp powers obtainable in PvP zones are things you want, not things you need. You can go through the entire game without ever once setting foot in a PvP zone, and you will reach level 50 just like everyone else. I could see complaints about it being somewhat valid if your progress stopped dead until you did something in a PvP zone, but it doesn't, you can completely ignore the zones and be just fine.

You don't need accolades to make it through the game, you don't need temp powers either. If you want them, you have to risk the possibility that you may be attacked and killed, maybe repeatedly, and maybe by the same person.

In the case of the temp powers, the existence of that risk is exactly why they are as powerful as they are. What do you actually DO to earn them if you are not attacked by anyone? You talk to a couple people, defeat a few NPCs, and click a couple glowies. That is a large reward for a trivial task, it becomes less trivial when you add the presence of opposing players into the mix.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

I don't think the devs are likely to do anything about the current setup, and I don't know that they should, but here's my advice on getting the RVAV badges:

1) Be as subtle as possible. Find a time when RV is virtually empty. Go to the zone and use the /whoall command to see everyone non hidden on the map.
2) Although the first time you will need be vocal about advertising, get the globals of the folks interested in the badges. (even create a private global channel expressly for that purpose and invite folks to it. This channel also works well for coodinating attacks between multiple teams so that you don't need to put chatter in broadcast in RV). That way if you're noticed, you can reassemble a team another time with less fanfare.
3)Have folks on the team hide from searches when they enter the zone. That way other folks that are glancing to see if there's anyone in RV to make it worth their trip won't know you're there unless they actually hike over there to check.
4) Work quickly. If you get a spawn of AVs you don't need, pull them to drones rather than taking them out if you can get another AV spawn before the reset. It will save much time and give PvPers less time to gather. If you can't get another AV spawn before the reset, dont' bother taking them out, just reset the zone.
5) Don't get set on getting all the AVs in one run, just say that you'll try until the griefers show up. Then try again another time.
6) Always be polite and recognize that the PvPers have a right to PvP. You will catch more flies with honey and all that. Having a whole team complaining at a PvPer about griefing will have no impact on making the PvPer leave you alone. And remember, if they don't leave you alone, take your toys and go home, and express gratitude for those who were willing to let you go about your business.

I know that times that work for me may not work as well for you, but I found Sunday Morning/Afternoons (Eastern and Pacific time...pretty wide window) to be relatively dead PvP times in RV.

Not in a pvp zone.

But only if you're a villain.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.