why no Earth mastery ?


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In my attempt to creat all single element doms i noticed that doms do not have access to the earth mastery app an i was wondering why is that ?
i mean i can go 3x ice, 3x fire , 3x psy, 3x elec but no 3x earth .
i hope that changes soon


 

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Originally Posted by Redd Rumm View Post
In my attempt to creat all single element doms i noticed that doms do not have access to the earth mastery app an i was wondering why is that ?
i mean i can go 3x ice, 3x fire , 3x psy, 3x elec but no 3x earth .
i hope that changes soon
My guess is between Earth Control and Stone Assault Dom's already have access to almost every earth power there is. Well other than the armors! Don't get me wrong I'd love to get Earth's Embrace and Rock Armor on a Dom! But other than that..I'm not sure what else could go into a Doms Stone APP... without making new powers. Could be a fun discussion though..if people have ideas what could go into a Dom's Stone APP


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Originally Posted by RiverOcean View Post
My guess is between Earth Control and Stone Assault Dom's already have access to almost every earth power there is. Well other than the armors! Don't get me wrong I'd love to get Earth's Embrace and Rock Armor on a Dom! But other than that..I'm not sure what else could go into a Doms Stone APP... without making new powers. Could be a fun discussion though..if people have ideas what could go into a Dom's Stone APP
Pretty much this. The Dom APPs usually have 1-2 ranged AoE powers, and Armor, a Utility power, and maybe a single-target blast or something.

They could get Rock Armor for the armor, but there are no ranged AoE earth powers except the one that they already get. Even if we rounded it out to giving them Rock Armor, Earth's Embrace, and Rooted (though that would likely never happen), that's still only 3 out of 5 powers, and there's nothing in the game right now that could be used there.


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Yeah going to have to agree with the others, the only thing left for earth based powers are just armors, there would be no way to make an Earth APP without making new powers or making the pool OP with like 4 armors. They used the most of the Stone Melee set (Exemptions are Stone fist, Build up, and Taunt) and one power from the Stone Armor set (The only damaging power in the set), and you already get Earth Control. So the only thing left are defensive powers, I could see letting maybe 3 get through but anymore Armors would serously be overpowering it.


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Stone Skin
See below
Rock Armor
Earth's Embrace
Dust to Dust (Resurgence clone power-wise, but uses the Zombie invasion get up and dirt falls off you animation)

For the 2nd power one of the following:

Propel Rocks - this is the Kaolin of Earth attack. Make the stats: 1.14 scale smashing and 1.14 scale lethal damage. -15% defense debuff. Mag 2 KB. 24 second recharge, 11.86 end cost. Give it 1.2 accuracy.

or

Grit - Physical Perfection clone


Instead of the self-rez, you could also give them another Animate Stone, but this one is on the 900s recharge, 240s duration plan.


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Pyroclastic Bombardment - A location targetted AoE similar to Rain of Fire but using flaming rocks falling for graphics. Secondary effects could be minor defense debuff and minor to hit debuff.
Rock Armor - As per controller
Earth's Embrace - As per controller
Meteor - A crashless mini-Nuke on a long timer. A flaming boulder falls from the sky and then you have the SFX from Atomic Blast at ground zero.
Heart of the Mountain - essentially confers Granite armor on the Dominator (with Dom AT modifiers) for 120 seconds with a recharge of 1000 seconds and an end crash and domination crash (domination ends if active and the domination bar empties) at expiration.


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For anyone who thinks Granite Armor on a dom would be good.... AHAHAHAHAHA.


That said, Strato's suggestion actually looks half way decent with the Kaolin ranged attack.


 

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I'd quite like to have Strato's suggestion available. Although rather than the self-rez, if we're making new powers I'd like to see an AoE - some sort of rain of stones (fairly common for earth magic in fantasy settings), or an AoE version of Stone Spears (though I'm not sure how you make that visually distinct from Stalagmites).

Failing that, power pool customization so I can take the Ice pool, colour it brown, LaLaLaLaLaICan'tHearYou away the ice debuff effects, and call them crystals.


 

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A few of us offered suggestions during the GR beta.

I was thinking something like...

Sand Storm (Rain of Fire Clone)
Rock Armor
Earth's Embrace
Stone Skin

I forgot my 5th suggestion at that time, but...

Propel Rocks (though I'd make this a cone attack, not single target)

...sounds good.


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There's Gravel, that cone attack that Minions of Igneous use. You could also give them a click version of Granite along the lines of Force of Nature and Surge of Power.


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Here's my suggestion by modifying the power selections within the Controller Stone Mastery APP.

Hurl Boulder
Fault
Rock Armor
Earth's Embrace
Tremor


 

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Originally Posted by baron_inferno View Post
Here's my suggestion by modifying the power selections within the Controller Stone Mastery APP.

Hurl Boulder
Fault
Rock Armor
Earth's Embrace
Tremor
Epics cant have powers that are already in the primary or secondary sets.


 

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Originally Posted by StratoNexus View Post
Stone Skin
See below
Rock Armor
Earth's Embrace
Dust to Dust (Resurgence clone power-wise, but uses the Zombie invasion get up and dirt falls off you animation)

For the 2nd power one of the following:

Propel Rocks - this is the Kaolin of Earth attack. Make the stats: 1.14 scale smashing and 1.14 scale lethal damage. -15% defense debuff. Mag 2 KB. 24 second recharge, 11.86 end cost. Give it 1.2 accuracy.

or

Grit - Physical Perfection clone


Instead of the self-rez, you could also give them another Animate Stone, but this one is on the 900s recharge, 240s duration plan.
This is very good but instead of the self-rez perhaps we could have:
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Originally Posted by Vanden
Gravel, that cone attack that Minions of Igneous use
or
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Sand Storm (Rain of Fire Clone)
This might have a -Def (like sleet) and would be in line with snow storm, 5th power in the Ice APP.

I would use this on my doms who all have Ice for sleet and frozen armor.

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Issue 20? Just a thought.


 

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I'd love to see the following:

Stone Skin
Gravel
Rock Armour
Earth's Embrace
Sandstorm

Though Sandstorm should give -Accuracy in my opinion.


 

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just a wild guess here, Earth Mastery will only come after Sone Blast comes around


 

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Originally Posted by Wooden_Replica View Post
just a wild guess here, Earth Mastery will only come after Sone Blast comes around
Such as Hurl Bolder?..... The controllers have it, so it CAN be done.

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Originally Posted by Snowzone
I'd love to see the following:

Stone Skin
Gravel
Rock Armour
Earth's Embrace
Sandstorm

Though Sandstorm should give -Accuracy in my opinion.
I like it. -Def might make it OP.


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Originally Posted by Miladys_Knight View Post
Pyroclastic Bombardment - A location targetted AoE similar to Rain of Fire but using flaming rocks falling for graphics. Secondary effects could be minor defense debuff and minor to hit debuff.
Rock Armor - As per controller
Earth's Embrace - As per controller
Meteor - A crashless mini-Nuke on a long timer. A flaming boulder falls from the sky and then you have the SFX from Atomic Blast at ground zero.
Heart of the Mountain - essentially confers Granite armor on the Dominator (with Dom AT modifiers) for 120 seconds with a recharge of 1000 seconds and an end crash and domination crash (domination ends if active and the domination bar empties) at expiration.
Reading back this looks good too. Except the Granite Armor thing (which I would NEVER take because of the dom crash), and the meteor (Nukes in APP? No thank you.) Earth's embrace or Stone skin? I would perfer stone skin too give it an edge over ice (sorry fire sleet + frozen armor are beautiful things during our end game.)